Philippians 2:6 ?

There are basically 2 translations of Philippians 2:6.
The older translations, including the KJV and the Vulgate translate, "Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God."

The ESV translates, " Who though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasp."

The original NIV had the same translation as the ESV. The updated NIV, 2011 version changed to something a little different. The NIV translation committee stated that during the original translation, they were not sure how it should be translated.

Does anyone have any information as to how the Greek should be translated? The Greek harpagmon is only in the Greek Bible here in this one verse.

I believe the KJV and the Vulgate and others got it right. An early Church leader named Novatian quoted that verse around 250AD exactly as it is in the KJV.

I've done the homework on this one, but thought some of you may have more information.
Thanks!

There are basically 2 translations of Philippians 2:6.
The older translations, including the KJV and the Vulgate translate, "Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God."

The ESV translates, " Who though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasp."

The original NIV had the same translation as the ESV. The updated NIV, 2011 version changed to something a little different. The NIV translation committee stated that during the original translation, they were not sure how it should be translated.

Does anyone have any information as to how the Greek should be translated? The Greek harpagmon is only in the Greek Bible here in this one verse.

I believe the KJV and the Vulgate and others got it right. An early Church leader named Novatian quoted that verse around 250AD exactly as it is in the KJV.

I've done the homework on this one, but thought some of you may have more information.
Thanks!

It is best not to interpret, but study and let the Lord lead into all truth. I am not a KJV only person, but in the above mentioned case, the KJV got it right.

ESV is pretty awful thru and thru......

If you had to explain this verse to a new believer, how would you?

Love the ESV....

I believe the KJV and the Vulgate and others got it right.

How do you interpret the KJV version?

There are basically 2 translations of Philippians 2:6.
The older translations, including the KJV and the Vulgate translate, "Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God."

The ESV translates, " Who though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasp."

The original NIV had the same translation as the ESV. The updated NIV, 2011 version changed to something a little different. The NIV translation committee stated that during the original translation, they were not sure how it should be translated.

Does anyone have any information as to how the Greek should be translated? The Greek harpagmon is only in the Greek Bible here in this one verse.

I believe the KJV and the Vulgate and others got it right. An early Church leader named Novatian quoted that verse around 250AD exactly as it is in the KJV.

I've done the homework on this one, but thought some of you may have more information.
Thanks!

This passage is not rocket science.

CHRISTIANS MUST ADOPT THE SAME MIND AS CHRIST AS NOTED BELOW
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

CHRIST (THE WORD OF GOD) IS EQUALLY GOD WITH GOD THE FATHER
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

CHRIST TOOK THE FORM OF A SERVANT FOR OUR SALVATION
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

CHRIST HUMBLED HUMSELF AND BECAME OBEDIENT UNTO DEATH
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

This passage is not rocket science

Philippians 2:6 Or a thing to be held on to for advantage

6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,[a]

I agree.

But using modern trabslations we have to look at the footnotes as well due to the fact of textual criticism brought about during the Itialian Renaissance when the Greek language would be rediscovered by Eastern Europe.

The ESV has the foundation of the KJV but uses textual criticism.


Philippians 2:6
English Standard Version

6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,[a]

Footnotes

1. Philippians 2:6 Or a thing to be held on to for advantage

Hebrews 2:9
King James Version

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

We know that Jesus being fully God did in fact lower Himself to some degree which he would late be crowned with glory.

Jesus was fully God but His life on Earth was lowered beneath the angels so that He may also be fully human. His human nature is why we see Him praying to the Father and showing us the perfect humanly example of God follower.

Was Jesus equal in human form? Did He sacrifice His place in Heaven for a little while to be born as a human child and experience the human life? What advantage did He give up? If Jesus had not came in the flesh and lowered himself to be fully human while being fully God within the incarnation then we as humans would have never been given a perfect sacrifice. That is why He had to limit the advantage, become lower than the angels, become human, so that God inarnate could take our place in the atonement for sin as a perfect human sacrifice only achieved by the perfect holy nature of God.

Does anyone have any information as to how the Greek should be translated? The Greek harpagmon is only in the Greek Bible here in this one verse.

"Alexandrian or Egyptian type of text.....they are found in the Critical Text published in the twenty-eighth edition of the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament (N) and in the United Bible Societies' third edition (U), hence the acronym "NU-Text.""

Thats the main problem with the ESV. The contentions, issues and blunders were found to be so serious that I never use the ESV anymore. Bye bye. And hello KJV.

Kjv has it's issues too so really the best practice is to study multiple translation in comparison to the interlinear Hebrew/Greek. Many scholars worked on the ESV and like the KJV it follows a word-for-word translation which is great. The Latin manuscripts had many errors as to what led to the Reformation due to textual criticism and the relearning of Greek.