Salvation is for the Whole World
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Yes, we obviously view things differently if you consider putting faith in God hearing the Word that comes from Him and believing it, is rendering oneself 'deserving' of salvation. On the other hand, I see doing nothing while the instruction is given to believe, and yet expecting salvation, as actually the idea of entitlement.
What would you call it? Look, if you believe that faith is a product of oneself and it is God's requirement for your salvation,
should you do so (which I don't believe is possible, nor do I believe our faith that which saves), then in effect,
you are rendering yourself deserving, by which, you would have then saved yourself.
should you do so (which I don't believe is possible, nor do I believe our faith that which saves), then in effect,
you are rendering yourself deserving, by which, you would have then saved yourself.
Ezk 33:11, is speaking of the wickedness of his elect, when they are enticed to commit a sin, which separates them from their fellowship with God, temporary, until God chastens them to repent. Death=separation, according to Greek.
God chastens, only those that he loves. The wicked, mentioned in Psalms 73, are those that he does not love, as I pointed out in my post #478, who are not in trouble as other men, neither are they plagued (divenly punished) like other men.
Harmonizing the scriptures will open your eyes to see the truth.
The gift of salvation is not to all but only to those whom God had chosen for such. Without there being election, there could be no grace, otherwise, it would/must be of works - there is no third alternative - either one or the other.
Regarding how one knows? The Bible is replete with verses that inform us of the attributes of the saved, but those verses
must be understood in light of the whole Bible, not just of themselves.
Regarding how one knows? The Bible is replete with verses that inform us of the attributes of the saved, but those verses
must be understood in light of the whole Bible, not just of themselves.
We are all given a measure of faith by God, after all He says explicitly, “we have no excuse.”
Saving grace is that tiny amount that we apply. One man hears the Gospel and says, “I hear what you say and I understand and believe it.’ Another says, “I hear and understand your Gospel, but do not believe it.”
It is when the Holy Sprit takes that minute initial faith and appies it to our soul, that we are quickened/
That is the difference, and why throughout the OT and NT we are told to believe and choose.
Saving grace is that tiny amount that we apply. One man hears the Gospel and says, “I hear what you say and I understand and believe it.’ Another says, “I hear and understand your Gospel, but do not believe it.”
It is when the Holy Sprit takes that minute initial faith and appies it to our soul, that we are quickened/
That is the difference, and why throughout the OT and NT we are told to believe and choose.
We receive this undeserved gift of salvation by God's sovereign grace, while we are, yet, dead spiritually in our sins, unable to respond to spiritual things (Eph 2"1 & 1 Cor 2:14).
Jesus's sacrifice for those that God gave to him (John 6:39), was not a sacrifice that was offered to mankind, for mankind's acceptance, but was an offering to God, for God's acceptance, and God was well pleased (2 Pet 1:17).
Jesus's sacrifice for those that God gave to him (John 6:39), was not a sacrifice that was offered to mankind, for mankind's acceptance, but was an offering to God, for God's acceptance, and God was well pleased (2 Pet 1:17).
Guess you were unable to grasp my prior post. I said that receiving a gift is not a work but having to do something TO receive it, is.
Everyone saved has received the gift of eternal life, but none having done anything in order to receive it.
If you have to do something for it, and should you do that and get it, then without question, a payment has been made. It would then be
a quid pro quo.
[Rom 5:15 KJV]
15 But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
[Eph 2:4-6 KJV]
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:
Everyone saved has received the gift of eternal life, but none having done anything in order to receive it.
If you have to do something for it, and should you do that and get it, then without question, a payment has been made. It would then be
a quid pro quo.
[Rom 5:15 KJV]
15 But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
[Eph 2:4-6 KJV]
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:
Action involves movement. Any action that is required to receive a gift is works. When a person is spiritually dead, they cannot receive spiritual gifts (1 Cor 2:14) (Eph 2:1).
There is a scripture that tells the born again person to work out his own salvation. Salvation=deliverance. Those who are born again can work out their own deliverance, by following God's commandments, and repenting when they commit a sin.
