Many Scriptures are not directed at Church Age Saints

Many Christians take all scriptures being meant for themselves which is not the truth at all. Now, ths is not saying we cant learn from what is meant for Israel alone. Take Matthew 24 for example, all scripture is directed at Israel alone.

Anyone agree?

Omegatime said:

Matthew 24

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1 As Jesus left the temple and was walking away, His disciples came up to Him to point out its buildings.

2 “Do you see all these things?” He replied. “Truly I tell you, not one
stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

3 While Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately.
“Tell us,” they said,“when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your
coming and of the end of the age?”

4 Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name,
claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars,
but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come.
7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and
earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9 Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated
by all nations because of My name. 10 At that time many will fall away and will betray
and hate one another, 11 and many false prophets will arise and mislead many.

12 Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.
13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by
the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the
mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house.
18 And let no one in the field return for his cloak.

19 How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! 20 Pray that your flight
will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For at that time there will be great tribulation,
unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. 22 If those days
had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short.

23 At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it.
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would
deceive even the elect, if that were possible. 25 See, I have told you in advance.

26 So if they tell you, ‘There He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here He is in the inner rooms,’
do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so
will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’

30 At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn.
They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And He will
send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds,
from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves,
you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near,
right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.

36 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,g but only the Father.
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the
flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.
39 And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the
Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be
grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.

42 Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day on which your Lord will come.
43 But understand this: If the homeowner had known in which watch of the night the thief was
coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 For this
reason, you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour you do not expect.

45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of his household,
to give the others their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whose master finds him
doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master will be away a long time.’
49 And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master
of that servant will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not anticipate.
51 Then he will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the
hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Jesus was speaking to his disciples (the guys he would charge with building the church) directly giving them a warning about things to come. He wasnt speaking to folks that werent there.

It is well to remember that scripture must first be understood to be written to a particular audience, and it is there we will find its truest understanding. But 2 Timothy 3:16 tells us that all scripture is profitable for a host of reasons. So simply because we are not included in the original audience doesn't mean the passages find no application for us.

Dispensationalist' plop.

Well, you are either pre-wrath or a preterist?

He’s foretelling what would happen from Jesus ascention onto heaven until the world ends when Jesus returns to gather his people from earth saving them from its end

Parts of it happened in ad 67-70 and after

Other parts of it will continue on until the end of the world Jesus is asked about two separate things

When will the temple and the city be destroyed ? Like he told them

and also another question “ what will the signs be of your coming at the end of the world be ?”

“And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying,

Tell us, when shall these things be? (regarding the temple in Jerusalem )

and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?”( regarding the worlds end and Jesus return )
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:1-3‬ ‭

His answers are hard to seperate but you can if you look to Luke’s contemporary witness and marks contemporary witness

There are the other witnesses that clarify and give us a fuller account Matthew 24 like Luke 21 adds details to the account of what was said and why and mark 13

“And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. ( this is the beginning of Luke 21 account of Matthew 24 and mark 13 each have details the others don’t have )


‭‭and marks

“And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. ( Romes destruction of Jerusalem 67-70 ad )

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, Tell us, when shall these things be?


and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:2-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Even though we have this difference in language we understand the subject matter and wot eas is all th same and is all true each actually has more details the other two may lack as they have some the one lacks but all together it’s much easier to understand what he’s talking about

I disagree.

Some Scripture is directed to ancient Israel (Exodus through Deuteronomy). Some is directed to Christians (Paul's letters). Some is directed to peoples of other 'nations' (Isaiah's prophecies).

everything in the Bible was first preached to israel (the law and prophets and the gospel )

and then the gospel was preached by Israel from Jerusalem to all people of the world

Both testements old and new came first to israel one testament was extended to all people based on Abraham’s promise

Several things changed after Pentecost as this administration (dispensation) that God declared ... was hid in God and not made known until Paul received it by revelation. Everything that Jesus prophesied about concerning coming events were/are held in abeyance due to this Grace administration that did not exist until God revealed it.
The Pauline epistles are written directly to the Church of God in this administration with a few notable exception (Rom 9-11 and a short dissertation in chapter 2&3.) All other are applicable .... to the degree that they are for our learning.... but not addressed directly to us.

Many so far want to teach a history lesson; where is the hope of a rapture resurrection before the tribulation and the warning to those who fail to heed the truth.

Exactly who is Jesus answering here in Matt? and He even says this generation. But dispensationalism says Jesus did not mean what He said. They say ,Yes He said this generation but He meant a future generation . Dispensationalist know more better then Jesus !

For sure a great many people today do not clearly understand that the scriptures were not addressed to them but rather to those in biblical times and their issues. That's easy to see just by the opening salutations of the NT letters. We must carefully read the scriptures to ascertain their true application to us as well as the issues that they were intended to directly address. You mentioned Mat 24 which is a good example. The destruction of the temple occurred in 70 AD. In this instance, you must also read the parallel scriptures (Mark 13, Luke 21) and treat them as one, to clearly understand Mat 24 and to understand the true nature of the questions that were asked by Jesus's disciples.

Trying to shoe horn scripture into you theology, you have gone about it backward.
Reading the passage it is obvious who He is speaking to, because the passage literally says that His disciples came to him asking questions. He wasnt speaking into the either to some future Hebrew audience.

All scripture is for us:

2 Timothy 3:16 KJV
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

You appear to be confusing written testaments with spiritual covenants. Paul did not write to Israelites, but to the Church.

Yes, but not all Scripture was written to us.

All scripture is written for us, but not all scripture is written to us.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for [1] doctrine, for [2] reproof, for [3] correction, for [4] instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2 Tim 3:16,17)

While all is not written to us, we may learn from every part of Scripture and apply the teachings to ourselves. It is the Word of God.

Who do you think the church is made up of ? brother Paul was an Israelite most of the church in scriptire were Israelites who converted to Christianity

the rest of the people were the people those former Jews preached to and converted to Christianity not to Moses and Judaism but to Jesus and the gospel to the church made up of Hebrews and gentile me in one body sharing in one spirit and in one hope of eternal life


I don’t think you understand that they were all Israelites and preached first to Israelites who converted to Christianity like all the gentiles later did when Jesus sent the word to them including them in the gospel

This is way before Paul was himself a Hebrew Jewish Pharisee who converted to Christianity and joined the church later already well established and filled with many Israelites and later also gentiles from many different places

The church brother is where it doesn’t matter if you were born a Hebrew like Paul and Peter or gentile that has no meaning but it’s here where Abraham’s children of promise are

“For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:26-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I don’t really know how to reply to this other part you because that doesn’t really make sense to me to say there’s some other covenants not written seems like a way to avoid the Bible and what it says

Like this are you saying whats written is different somehow than this spiritual covenant you’re talking about ?
can you elaborate on this part ?

“You appear to be confusing written testaments with spiritual covenants. “

im definately confused by what your saying there lol for sure

God is a spirit and God speaks his word , what he says is the covenant and he’s always caused man to write it down so people can’t create alternative paths and try avoiding his one and only path