tithing a way out of poverty

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studentoftheword

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By this logic, if you give 10% instead of 100%, you are ‘crippling the expansion of God’s kingdom on earth’. In other words, your argument doesn’t hold water.
A Hole in the hand is what doesn't hold water -----now that is logic




Now that is just to funny for words
 

Dino246

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Throughout the whole Bible we can see what the heart and mind of God is, in regards to tithing.
See Ananias and sapphira. Hypocrites.

Acts 4:33-35 KJV
And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
[34] Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
[35] And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

Acts 5:3-5 KJV
But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
[4] Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
[5] And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

Would you be one,
if you had the means,
to sell,
for the sake of the poor people
in the House of God.

Would you even be part of a (House of God) church, where hypocrites dropped down dead?
The story of Ananias and Sapphira has nothing whatsoever to do with tithing. Your accusatory rhetoric is highly inappropriate.
 

Beckie

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That is not a fix that is just getting back more from the Government ------if you get a receipt for what you tithe ------it is the same for many who give to Charity ---they get a tax receipt ---so they are not giving freely ----they expect a return -----it is trusting the Government not God
I am understanding youi would rather give to the government what you could be giving to Lord?

When a church group demands ,with any type of pressure, for one to tithe is that freely giving?
 

oyster67

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is tithing the way out of poverty?
The Way of the Cross leads home, not to the Bank.

Luke 14:
25And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them,
26If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
28For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?
29Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him,
30Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
31Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?
32Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
33So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
 

Underwhosewings

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Beware of spiritual poverty


Philippians 4:19 KJV
But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Not greed.
 

hornetguy

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People who want to try to live under a mis-understood and mis-quoted Old Covenant requirement, then try to shame those that DO understand the principle of Godly giving under the New Covenant....

questionable.....
 
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You gotta be careful that you don't give to the rich. No TV evangelist needs tithe. Tithe goes to your local church. I personally am proud of my pastor; he doesn't get a check. He wants the bills paid of a small congregation and got us a good spot to have church.
 

Beckie

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I agree with this statement

https://preventsatan.com/god-uses-your-tithe-to-expand-his-kingdom/

What the tithe does.
Father in Heaven depends on your tithe to sustain his servants on Earth and to enable them reach out to the lost souls. When you are not faithful in paying your tithe, you are crippling the expansion of God’s kingdom on Earth.

God’s servants on earth need money.
In order to bring God’s Kingdom and God’s will here on earth, God’s servants need money to do God’s work and to bring lost souls to Jesus Christ.

This is why your tithes are needed. It is these tithes that are used to bring God’s kingdom and his will here on Earth.





Give and Trust God to look after your return -------not the Government -----Try giving your Tithe without getting a tax receipt ----and Trust that God will do good on this promise ------

Notice it says ---and it Shall Be Given to you -----Shall be given is a promise -----trust that not a piece of paper to give to your tax man -----

from the site posted in the above. Splanes a lot no thanks
summary of this message
In this vision the Lord shows us from both the Old and New Testaments that Satan continually goes into God’s presence to accuse Christians seeking our Father’s permission to tempt us.

This message clearly shows that God does not tempt anyone but, as He did to Jesus, can lead a Christian to the Devil who is the actual tempter.
When Christians don’t ask the Father the way He recommends in this message, our Father has no option but grant permission to the devil to tempt us.

Christians can prevent temptations and trials in their lives by specifically asking the Father as He recommends in this message. I believe that if Job had known the facts in this message, and if he had put into practice what Jesus tells us to do in the last Chapter, he wouldn’t have gone through all the trials that he faced.
This message is made up of only the seven Scriptures, highlighted in red, provided by the Lord through this vision. Other Scriptures are just used for illustration.
Some information about this message

Most of the content in this message is a revelation by the Person of the Holy Spirit to expose Satan’s little-known celestial activities and to show how God’s children can protect themselves from his evil works. The massage is based on seven Scriptures provided by the Lord through a vision.
 

Underwhosewings

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You gotta be careful that you don't give to the rich. No TV evangelist needs tithe. Tithe goes to your local church. I personally am proud of my pastor; he doesn't get a check. He wants the bills paid of a small congregation and got us a good spot to have church.
Same here.
No government grants
No paid preachers
No paid workers
No memberships
All built by faith
 

Mem

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Wasn't Jesus the ultimate
Firstfruits? Who can add to His Tithe?
 

Underwhosewings

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Revelation 2:10 KJV
Fear none of those things which
thou shalt suffer:
behold, the
devil shall cast some of you into prison,
that
ye may be tried; and
ye shall have tribulation ten days:
be thou faithful unto death,
and I will give thee a crown of life.
you support tithes correct? why?
we say freewill offerings
It’s a rare thing for that subject to be heard here.

Ooops didn’t post my previous post
🤭
 

Dino246

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Revelation 2:10 KJV
Fear none of those things which
thou shalt suffer:
behold, the
devil shall cast some of you into prison,
that
ye may be tried; and
ye shall have tribulation ten days:
be thou faithful unto death,
and I will give thee a crown of life.

we say freewill offerings
It’s a rare thing for that subject to be heard here.

Ooops didn’t post my previous post
🤭
Many people use the term ‘tithe’ for freewill offerings. They simply are not the same thing. Under the Mosaic covenant, tithes were mandatory and payable in farm produce. Freewill offerings could be anything and were exactly that: free, without obligation. Conflating the two only confuses people.