The gift of increased faith

As you know one of the gifts of the holy spirit is faith. And one of the fruits of the holy spirit is faithfullness,

Since faith is something a believer allready possesses what is the gift of faith suggesting.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.



The Holy Spirit is given to each of us in a special way. That is for the good of all. 8 To some people the Spirit gives a message of wisdom. To others the same Spirit gives a message of knowledge. 9 To others the same Spirit gives faith.

Would this be increased faith as and when needed, as in something you reçieve each time you pray for more faith.

Or would it be something you reçieve once when you pray for it.

Personaly I would of thought theese gifts are permanent and make you pursue them more from within. 😊

On a last note would pursuing love from within, give you the ability to express theese gifts.

As translations suggests it does.

But since I've been told my knowledge of the Greek and Hebrews translations is inadequate, I thought I would raise the question, centred on faith rather than prophesy or tounges, as that one seems to be a touchy subject.

well I just sent you one now

not at odds friend just me testing the spirit 😋😍

You passed with flying colours 😊

Another thing...the thing that is believed always comes to pass.

Well hopefully by now you know I only know to speak from my heart I am an open book I am not afraid of speaking what is placed on me.

Jesus speaks to me I cannot stress that enough I even speak to him him in my own room because to me he is real he is there if you take the first steps in the direction he wants you to go he doesn't stop he keeps going.

Something new something deeper than the relationship with him we know of I have tasted and I have seen the deliciousness of his his being how so much deeper it goes that so many of us are unaware of the truth we all are trying to find in all our interpetation so called holy spirit filled understanding I sought after the real thing I refused to accept things as they are and he with every act of obedience gives results every time.

We are a new generation and it is an invite only kind of thing, he wants us to be a partt of what he is doing it is a CALLING THAT IS NOT PREDESTINED ONLY A CHOICE sorry caps issue atgain but maybe that was intentional.

I believe Christian chat is going to be the spark that revives the body of the Lord even though even online and trust me we are spoken about a lot online Christian chat is not seen as a good thing.

I personally knew of this but what mdoes anyone do about it? For me this was never a hobby or a religion it was mmore than salvation more than faith he was always so much more to me than a God to worship or even my saviour heaven itself and all honor or glory or any crown or title could never begin to compare to the true treeasure of heaven the best of the best him only him.

Don't be surpised if one daY i come on here and a powerful will be felt all throughout the forum everyone feels it powerfully it is going to happen and he is going to open the floodgates Christian chat will be revived and flourish in his life life the kingdom og God is going to brust through and spread like a virus it cannot be stopped wait and see.

one more question to ponder befor I shoot of.

Faith comes by hearing the word.

Is the spirit in the word 🙂

my view

Jesus is the word ----the Word inbirths the right faith in one who is drawn by the Father who has opened the person's heart to receive the word ------all of us have to be drawn by the Father to have a heart change to be receptive to the Word who is Jesus ----this is different than the anointing of that faith by the Holy Spirit -----The Holy Spirit chooses who He wants to anoint that persons Faith so it is unshakeable to do God's Will ----

When we receive Faith from the Word to believe in Jesus who is the Word we can have wavering Faith ----the Disciples are an example of that ----they had the right Faith but at times wavered and their faith was not stable -------Peter is a good example ----he walked on water till his faith failed him -----he was distracted and believe me Satan is the master of distracting your Faith ---Satan wants your faith to fail --to waver ----but Satan is no match for the anointing of Faith that comes from the Holy Spirit -----that faith will not waver and will sustain the course ----even unto death ----your Stance is securely rooted in what God wants you to do ----------

When the Holy spirit anoints the inbirthed faith from the Word ----that faith is strengthened and the person will stand steadfast in that Faith to do God's Will -----Noah is an example ---for years there was no rain --no sign of any flood but his faith never wavered ---his Faith was anointed to stay the course and finish what God wanted him to do ---His Faith was unshakeable ----can you imagine how many people would have thought Noah was a crazy man and telling him is nuts to build a boat when there was no sign of any flood coming ------- and how many people would have given up and said OK Lord I am done --I don't believe the flood will happen so I am not doing this anymore ------Many would have given up ----but the Holy Spirit ANOINTED----strengthened His Faith to stay the course -----ignoring all the snide remarks by others ------

excellent analogy 😊 enjoyed the read thanks,

my view

The filling of the Holy Spirit anoints the person through Faith ----it is an unction to function ----it strengthens Faith to preform God's will ----

Faith comes by hearing the Word -----through Faith the Holy Spirit can anoint the person to have unshakeable Spiritual faith to stand firm for God and preform God's will -----

Spiritual Strong's Concordance
chrisma: an anointing, unction
Original Word: χρίσμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: chrisma
Phonetic Spelling: (khris'-mah)
Definition: an anointing, unction
an anointing and by it they were regarded as endued with the Holy Spirit and divine gifts

Cognate: 5545 xrísma (from 5548 /xríō, "anoint with oil") – anointing, referring to the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit, guiding the receptive believer into fullness of God's preferred-will (see 2307 /thélēma). See 5548 (xrio).

[This anointing functions through faith (4102 /pístis), i.e. God inwardly persuading the believer of His preferences (cf. also Hab 2:1-4; 1 Jn 5:4).]

There ain't nothing Wrong With being predestined With the lord friend and nothing more powerful.

What someone would call predestined I would call a plan

What someone else would call predestined I would call a will

What someone would call predestined, I would call a plan determined by the will of the lord, to set a root through the enemies terrains to regain what is lost,

To establish a foundation on a ground that was taken, and rebuild what was lost. For the lost to re-establish there strength for the next season, when once again the enemy will try to regain its ground.

It was Jesus who set the cause and laid the foundation knowing our adversary would return in a season, The father and Jesus planned and set his cause from the beginning.
Jesus was led of the spirit to fast for 40 days,
He was then led of the spirit to the place of where the tempter was.

Jesus weakened and zapped of all power, vulnerable and just a man at this stage, he defeated the enemy as his flesh was tempted as we are. his flesh was weak . His spirit was under the law of the spirit, and led of the spirit in all things,

He crushed our adversaries words so much so the enemy departed from Jesus for a season. The spirit was showing us Jesus at this stage was as week as a man.
But the spirit never left him and led him.

The slaves of Egypt where also predestined for 40 years untill they where given there home back the land of milk and honey, Israel

The lord parted the oceans and set there path.

Some where lost some where found along the way. All tho there path was set some could still choose to follow there own and some did and they where punished.

But the lord takes life to preserve life, the same he took his sons.

The message was clear for all. The lord was prepared to take life to save life, to grow determination to rule over sin with the fear of dying.

Because sin is death, and wanting to live overcomes death by fear of dying for commiting sin.

The slaves of Egypt where not sent to hell for there wrong doing, no they where made an example of on there chosen path.

As moses was for his wrong doing he
was taken up to the top of mount Sinai and never seen again.

But we know God took him up.

Just as we know the lord finds the prodigal son who has strayed and fallen into sin.

Because his life was predestined into adoption by God the father to the son and by the son to the father, who is able see all things even the future.

Because Once your save your life is saved.

Your life is led of the spirit in all things.

The spirit prepare works in advance and directs your paths.

This ain't no robot experience this is the power of the lord keeping his children safe.

God does not predestine a person to hell or predestine a person to sickness to be born of disease, no he does not.

The enemy does.

The enemy has his paths set for all.

The lord has his path set for all.

Predestination is the path you choose, but once you've chose the right one, your path becomes set.

The lord even gives yo the words to say

As faith comes from hearing the word,

And the word is in the spirit.

And the spirit is in the word you hear.

The word guides you under the spirit that is the word.

I cannot even say the words here, your growing so fast I could tell the holy spirit took you over as you wrote this.

cheers bro. I'm sure it also come from connecting with brothers so grown in the lord like yourself, who have been through the tests and the fire, who have been crafted into being Christ like, and seeked the lord all there life 😊 and been there and lived it.

I've been studying the bible for a few weeks with the thought of how many other people have been talking in the spirit,

What I mean is when they've spoke it was an outer body Experience, IE there soul had been carried of some where.

Its astounding how many scriptures it can fit into.

Could be they key to many question marks in the bible to.

I am not exactly sure but it might be like how it works with my poems. Like to speak in the spirit your just a blank slate if I write of a place in this state it is as if I am mactually there I can describe the texture of the dirt the feel of the grass the smell of the water as you pass by it and yeah it has a smell living water is unique that way.

Perhaps it is in this way one is here physically but their spirit is not is that what your saying?

I am not exactly sure but it might be like how it works with my poems. Like to speak in the spirit your just a blank slate if I write of a place in this state it is as if I am mactually there I can describe the texture of the dirt the feel of the grass the smell of the water as you pass by it and yeah it has a smell living water is unique that way.

Perhaps it is in this way one is here physically but their spirit is not is that what your saying?