As We Observe The Seventh Day Sabbath As A Sign Between Him And Us Being Holy/Scripture

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Walter

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The Sabbath was sign between God and the Jews. I'm a gentile so why should I pretend I'm a Jew?

"why do you compel the Gentiles to Judaize?" Galatians 2:14
 

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“Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:1‬ ‭

“And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day. But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:16-18‬ ‭

“And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬



“Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭

One man esteemeth one day above another:

another esteemeth every day alike.

Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.

For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:5-6, 9‬ ‭

The ot sabbath is about this world and Gods work in the beginning creating it
It was meant that all would honor the seventh day and remember our creator and source of our existance one earth but we broke that covenant long ago and the earth is doomed . We have a new creation now that begins and ends with Jesus and the gospel even our rest in him is now not about honoring a day per week but honoring the day we are in resting our souls on the gospel

to rest one day per week is a good principle and to do it honoring God is even better but we find our spiritual rest in a whole different way we have a new covenant a new beginning new creation to honor

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus commands are the way to go
 

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“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

From 2 Corinthians 5:17 and Romans 6:13
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All who truly praise God may be called Jews, that is to say, Praisers of Yahweh
h, God. But we are warned to beware of those who call themselves Jews but are not, rather they are a synagogue of Satan.
Let us pray that all who claim to believe Jesus Yeshua are truly Praisers of God.
 

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The physical sabbath is concerning this physical Earth, and God's covenant with the Jews in the Old Testament.

The Old Testament is a physical covenant that has blessing on this Earth and has the spiritual laws as part of it that is moral laws, laws of love, but did not give spiritual salvation.

The New Testament is a spiritual covenant with spiritual blessings.

Jesus nailed the physical ordinances to the cross and took them out of the way for they were contrary to us which they could not provide spiritual salvation which includes the sabbath days.

It is a spiritual sabbath in the New Testament.

God said with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people saying this is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Some people do not hear but say keep the physical sabbath but the Bible says let no person judge you by telling you to keep the physical sabbath.

Jesus said take His Yoke upon you and you will find rest unto your soul.

When a person has the Spirit then that is their rest for it is spiritual and not physical.

Jesus said He went away to prepare a place for the saints.

Jesus said the kingdom of God comes without observation for they will not say here it is or there it is but behold the kingdom of God is within you.

When a person has the Spirit then they are part of the kingdom of God and belong to the spiritual kingdom that Jesus went to prepare so they celebrate that kingdom and go by a spiritual sabbath not belonging to the physical Earth but heaven.

The physical sabbath pertains to this Earth but the saints are not part of this Earth but heaven so they go by a spiritual sabbath which is every day.
 

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Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.
(Ezekiel 20:12)​
a sign between the LORD and Israel, specifically. not all mankind.

a sign, not the substance.

a sign with a purpose: to teach them that it is God who sanctifies, not we ourselves.

Christ is The Substance, the Law was a shadow to lead to Him.
If you will observe it, observe it by learning of Him in it, else your observation is vain

delight in Him - He is all good things, in all good time, unchanging, eternal, full

in Him my rest is complete: He is THE rest; the blood of sacrifice could never cleanse, being offered over and over; the ritual of sabbath could never give peace, being practiced over and over
 

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Let us pray that all who claim to believe Jesus Yeshua are truly Praisers of God.
let us pray that we who seek Him are taught of Him to praise Him aright

Lord, make my foot secure! guide this, Your hand, to work skillfully! without Your light i stumble, without Your strength i fail - be mine Help and Shield, all my streams are in You!
 

posthuman

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All who truly praise God may be called Jews, that is to say, Praisers of Yahweh
h, God. But we are warned to beware of those who call themselves Jews but are not, rather they are a synagogue of Satan.
Let us pray that all who claim to believe Jesus Yeshua are truly Praisers of God.
big hugs, big brother ❤️
 

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As We Observe The Seventh Day Sabbath As A Sing Between Him And Us Being Holy/Scripture
This title is meant to confuse everyone. The 7th day Sabbath was a sign between ISRAEL and God. Not the Church and God. Once the New Covenant went into effect, the 7th day Sabbath was called a "shadow" since the reality is Christ. And that is why the eighth day -- the Lord's Day -- is reserved for Christian worship, rest, and good works.

Also one cannot equate the Sabbath with Holy Scripture either (as implied in the title).
 

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This title is meant to confuse everyone. The 7th day Sabbath was a sign between ISRAEL and God. Not the Church and God. Once the New Covenant went into effect, the 7th day Sabbath was called a "shadow" since the reality is Christ. And that is why the eighth day -- the Lord's Day -- is reserved for Christian worship, rest, and good works.

Also one cannot equate the Sabbath with Holy Scripture either (as implied in the title).
What is your source for more than seven days? I never heard of an eight day until you conjured it up.
 

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The Sabbath was sign between God and the Jews. I'm a gentile so why should I pretend I'm a Jew?

"why do you compel the Gentiles to Judaize?" Galatians 2:14
Amen! Exodus 31:16 - Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the 10 Commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 12–14, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: “Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the Lord your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore, the Lord your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.” (Deuteronomy 5:15)

So sabbath keeping (with all it's rules and regulations) was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant. (Colossians 2:16-17)
 

Pilgrimshope

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From 2 Corinthians 5:17 and Romans 6:13
:)
“Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; and have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:9-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.

And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:12-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Nehemiah6

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What is your source for more than seven days? I never heard of an eight day until you conjured it up.
The eighth day has spiritual significance since Jewish boys were circumcised in the eighth day. But Christ Himself gave spiritual significance to the eighth day under the New Covenant. Please note:

JOHN 20: THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EIGHTH DAY: CHRIST WORSHIPPED ON THIS DAY
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed
.

Also notice this: Now they began on the first day of the first month to sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of the LORD: so they sanctified the house of the LORD in eight days; and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end. (2 Chron 29:17)
 

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All who truly praise God may be called Jews, that is to say, Praisers of Yahweh
h, God. But we are warned to beware of those who call themselves Jews but are not, rather they are a synagogue of Satan.
Let us pray that all who claim to believe Jesus Yeshua are truly Praisers of God.
I have to.. well don't have to I choose to lol agree with ResidentAlien. Not sure where you came up with "may be called Jews". I do know there is the vine and there are branches that are of the (originally) vine and then we that are grafted in. After that no one can tell what was originally vs grafted in. I look at this as if were in heaven. As for the Sabbath.. I never got stuck on a day nor have I made sure to not do anything on that day like the OT or even what Jews do today. I watched this Jewish man I think it was in the 70's was saved yet said where it use to be (OT/NT) about GOD yet today its not its just about man. Talking about Israel (Jews).

Why would I observer it? If its because I am told to.. for me then I won't. For me it has to from my heart ..that I want to and no one ever told me to..