question: Can an unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?
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i guess i should not know these off hand like i do within 1 minute plus time, since FUNDI said, i don't know the Bible.
hmm, that must've been a lucky guess thinking about Isaiah 48, because Fundi would probably say, it can't be the Holy Spirit in me that led me to this immediately, because I imagine to him, i am not filled with God at all!
hmm, that must've been a lucky guess thinking about Isaiah 48, because Fundi would probably say, it can't be the Holy Spirit in me that led me to this immediately, because I imagine to him, i am not filled with God at all!
Fundaamental,
Do YOU realize, we have a Posting History here?
I can pull up any of your posts at any given time to prove these things you did.
YOU, act like i cannot do that and YOUR secrets are hidden.
Just thought, since this is ALL about Honesty and Transparency, YOU might need to be aware that myself, or anyone else, can prove your lies any time we so choose to do.
Do YOU realize, we have a Posting History here?
I can pull up any of your posts at any given time to prove these things you did.
YOU, act like i cannot do that and YOUR secrets are hidden.
Just thought, since this is ALL about Honesty and Transparency, YOU might need to be aware that myself, or anyone else, can prove your lies any time we so choose to do.
Fundaamental said:
The gift of tounges is when the father speaks through you, from all my research.
It's the father who speaks in tounges.
Yes the holy spirit is in you. But it's the father who speaks through the holy spirit.
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there's proof he thinks the Father, not the Holy Spirit, like the BIBLE claims, gives the Utterance to Speak in Tongues.
Also, in this SAME THREAD, he claims Speaking in Tongues is what brought Salvation in Book of Acts, to which CS1, set him straight, or tried to.
here's the other thing:
Fundamental said:
And the bible should advance to modern day times with it.
The_Watchers_2017 said:
the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible.
God wrote the Bible.
how much more advance should we get?
The gift of tounges is when the father speaks through you, from all my research.
It's the father who speaks in tounges.
Yes the holy spirit is in you. But it's the father who speaks through the holy spirit.
^
there's proof he thinks the Father, not the Holy Spirit, like the BIBLE claims, gives the Utterance to Speak in Tongues.
Also, in this SAME THREAD, he claims Speaking in Tongues is what brought Salvation in Book of Acts, to which CS1, set him straight, or tried to.
here's the other thing:
Fundamental said:
And the bible should advance to modern day times with it.
The_Watchers_2017 said:
the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible.
God wrote the Bible.
how much more advance should we get?
here, i found it again. just click on Fundi's Name: it goes to the actual post itself to prove i am not editing like he is doing to my posts.
Fundaamental said:
And the bible should advance to modern day times with it.
the whole post:
no your dismissing modern times, and in the case of hormonal defects which may well be proven to effect the mind soon.
Then there must be compassion for such person.
And the bible should advance to modern day times with it.
Fundaamental said:
And the bible should advance to modern day times with it.
the whole post:
no your dismissing modern times, and in the case of hormonal defects which may well be proven to effect the mind soon.
Then there must be compassion for such person.
And the bible should advance to modern day times with it.
are you a man or a woman? (i asked because someone said I called you a man by mistake)
If you do not believe that it is through the work of God that we are baptised (placed into) the death of Christ.
you can post those scriptures until your blue in the face.
the fact you continue to this moment to refuse to tell me what it is i teach that is in error. is begining to make me think you have ulterior motives here
Then you agree with everything I have said?
so why are you attacking mer as a false teacher?
Ah, back at it again.
Your wrong, it does not come before that, IT IS A PART OF THAT
I never said otherwise. that is YOUR false assumption
here is the thing
one. a person is drawn
two. a person comes to repentance
through that repentance, a person repents and trust Christ
then they call out on the name of the lord in faith
AT THAT MOMENT they are baptized into the death and burial of christ with the washing of the Holy SPirit
They are also AT THAT moment baptized into Christ, where he is placed into HIS FAMILY,. and at the same time baptized into his body. the church
After this, they are sealed with the HS of promise, as they are Anointed with the spirit.. here is where they are sealed as a pledge and where they receive the gift of the spirit.
Maybe you need glasses....I don't know. But one thing I do know, you do not seem able to respond to my actual post but mix up what I posted and then say it's wrong.
Perhaps you twist the Bible the same way you twist what I say. Maybe that is the problem with you here.
Not responding to your repeated twisting of what I actually posted again so feel free to move on from me. Since you do not seem to actually understand what I write, there is no use in playing round and round the mulberry bush with you.[/QUOTE]
If you do not believe that it is through the work of God that we are baptised (placed into) the death of Christ.
you can post those scriptures until your blue in the face.
the fact you continue to this moment to refuse to tell me what it is i teach that is in error. is begining to make me think you have ulterior motives here
Then you agree with everything I have said?
so why are you attacking mer as a false teacher?
Ah, back at it again.
Your wrong, it does not come before that, IT IS A PART OF THAT
I never said otherwise. that is YOUR false assumption
here is the thing
one. a person is drawn
two. a person comes to repentance
through that repentance, a person repents and trust Christ
then they call out on the name of the lord in faith
AT THAT MOMENT they are baptized into the death and burial of christ with the washing of the Holy SPirit
They are also AT THAT moment baptized into Christ, where he is placed into HIS FAMILY,. and at the same time baptized into his body. the church
After this, they are sealed with the HS of promise, as they are Anointed with the spirit.. here is where they are sealed as a pledge and where they receive the gift of the spirit.
Maybe you need glasses....I don't know. But one thing I do know, you do not seem able to respond to my actual post but mix up what I posted and then say it's wrong.
Perhaps you twist the Bible the same way you twist what I say. Maybe that is the problem with you here.
Not responding to your repeated twisting of what I actually posted again so feel free to move on from me. Since you do not seem to actually understand what I write, there is no use in playing round and round the mulberry bush with you.[/QUOTE]
Lamar ---Lamar ---Lamar ------it is not any form of Baptism that takes away your Sins -------your Sins are forgiven by the Shed Blood Of Jesus only ----where people get this idea that Baptism takes away sins is beyond me -----your ignorance of Scripture and understanding is laying bare here -----
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is given to you immediately after you receive Jesus in your heart -----Sins forgiven first by the Blood Shed by Jesus then the Holy Spirit immediately indwells the person -----this makes your Spirit Holy -----so you are now heaven bound -----
The Baptism of the Holy Spirit is given to you immediately after you receive Jesus in your heart -----Sins forgiven first by the Blood Shed by Jesus then the Holy Spirit immediately indwells the person -----this makes your Spirit Holy -----so you are now heaven bound -----
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