When they shall say peace and safety then sudden destruction comes

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Grace911

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The following are my thoughts about the present time and the coming end of this time.


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On March 11, 2020 the World Health Organization announced the whole world was on lock-down for Covid-19. It has been noted by some that 1290 days later falls on September 22, 2023 for the Abomination of Desolation to happen in Jerusalem.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily H8548 sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

H8548 tâmı̂yd taw-meed’
From an unused root meaning to stretch; properly continuance (as indefinite extension); but used only (attributively as adjective) constant (or adverbially constantly); elliptically the regular (daily) sacrifice: - alway (-s), continual (employment, -ly), daily, ([n-]) ever (-more), perpetual.

(Noting how many "jobs/employment" were not necessity and many began to work from home, if they were so blessed to still have a job.)
(Not considered a necessity were churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, etc. religious places of congregations. = Corporate prayers ended.)

1Thesalonian 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

I propose that this could be the beginning of a 7 year covenant. We can only watch, wait, and know when we see it.

The end of 42 months from September 21/22, 2023 is March 23/24, 2027 (Possibly first day of Passover).

I can in no way say that these dates are set in stone, but we are very close to the tribulation and Great Tribulation.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Romans 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

I don't see how a full 7 years can happen. It is noted that Moses and Aaron only needed 3 1/2 years to complete the ten plagues on Egypt and that the Second Exodus will be similar.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

I'm considering the above verse to be the ministry of the Two Witnesses who minister 1260 days.

We were all born into this time for a purpose. Ecclesiastes 3 -To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
 

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Are you saying that March 11, 2020 was the "covenant with many" for one week (seven years) spoken of by Daniel the prophet? And, that September 22, 2023 is the middle of the week, i.e., abomination of desolation?

Daniel 9
[27] And he [anti-christ] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 
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No one has said peace and safety for a LONG time. Since 2008, maybe even longer, we’ve been on the brink of a global economic collapse as wars flair up all over the world. The probability of the chosen verse being fulfilled anytime soon is low. Literally no one is crying that we have safety and peace.
 

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No one has said peace and safety for a LONG time. Since 2008, maybe even longer, we’ve been on the brink of a global economic collapse as wars flair up all over the world. The probability of the chosen verse being fulfilled anytime soon is low. Literally no one is crying that we have safety and peace.
Yes, it’s quite a stretch to say it mildly.
 

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The following are my thoughts about the present time and the coming end of this time.


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On March 11, 2020 the World Health Organization announced the whole world was on lock-down for Covid-19. It has been noted by some that 1290 days later falls on September 22, 2023 for the Abomination of Desolation to happen in Jerusalem.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily H8548 sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

H8548 tâmı̂yd taw-meed’
From an unused root meaning to stretch; properly continuance (as indefinite extension); but used only (attributively as adjective) constant (or adverbially constantly); elliptically the regular (daily) sacrifice: - alway (-s), continual (employment, -ly), daily, ([n-]) ever (-more), perpetual.

(Noting how many "jobs/employment" were not necessity and many began to work from home, if they were so blessed to still have a job.)
(Not considered a necessity were churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, etc. religious places of congregations. = Corporate prayers ended.)

1Thesalonian 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

I propose that this could be the beginning of a 7 year covenant. We can only watch, wait, and know when we see it.

The end of 42 months from September 21/22, 2023 is March 23/24, 2027 (Possibly first day of Passover).

I can in no way say that these dates are set in stone, but we are very close to the tribulation and Great Tribulation.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Romans 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.

Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

I don't see how a full 7 years can happen. It is noted that Moses and Aaron only needed 3 1/2 years to complete the ten plagues on Egypt and that the Second Exodus will be similar.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

I'm considering the above verse to be the ministry of the Two Witnesses who minister 1260 days.

We were all born into this time for a purpose. Ecclesiastes 3 -To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Jesus' ministry began when He went into the synagogue and proclaimed the year of Jubilee on Yom Kippur, which is when you proclaim the year of jubilee. The Antichrist is a counterfeit Christ with a counterfeit ministry. So if he is going to proclaim "peace and security" I would expect that to be on Yom Kippur which I think is September 25th this year. A counterfeit bill should at least look the same as the real thing.
 

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Jesus' ministry began when He went into the synagogue and proclaimed the year of Jubilee on Yom Kippur, which is when you proclaim the year of jubilee. The Antichrist is a counterfeit Christ with a counterfeit ministry. So if he is going to proclaim "peace and security" I would expect that to be on Yom Kippur which I think is September 25th this year. A counterfeit bill should at least look the same as the real thing.
In keeping with your line of reasoning, who is the forerunner to the anti-christ as John the Baptist was to Jesus?
 

Grace911

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Are you saying that March 11, 2020 was the "covenant with many" for one week (seven years) spoken of by Daniel the prophet? And, that September 22, 2023 is the middle of the week, i.e., abomination of desolation?

Daniel 9
[27] And he [anti-christ] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
On March 11, 2020 all churches, synagogues, temples and mosque were SHUTDOWN. This was in the midst of the week. All our corporate prayers stopped.

No, just the opposite. March 11, 2020 was the middle of the week (of the 120th Jubilee cycle) and September 22, 2023 is the Abomination of Desolations spoken by Daniel and is 1290 days from March 11, 2020 to September 22, 2023. It just so happens that every year on September 21st that the UN has INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE. Is there a connection? Could be? or Maybe not? I'm watching and know personally two men who are flying to Jerusalem to be on site and will report back if there is something note worthy. Their suspicion is on Mount Golgotha (a most holy place where our LORD Jesus was crucified). What do you think the Abomination that causes Desolation could be? One of my suspicions/theory is a bomb of some sort. Another theory is a statue like the one in Brazil. 1692320544851.jpeg Or could it be a hologram? Or it may be a big nothing burger.

Please consider that "one week" can and probably is one Jubilee cycle. Not to say that "one week" is only "seven years", but a Jubilee is (7 x 7) + 1 = 50/ Note below that 2020 is the middle of this final 120th Jubilee cycle. 45 Sabbatical PROOFS with Documentation

Sabbitcal and Jubilees Chart from Adam to Now


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He's the voice in the wilderness crying "prepare ye the way of the anti-christ"? I don't see it. I think it's a political leader, perhaps Obama.
 

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Jesus' ministry began when He went into the synagogue and proclaimed the year of Jubilee on Yom Kippur, which is when you proclaim the year of jubilee. The Antichrist is a counterfeit Christ with a counterfeit ministry. So if he is going to proclaim "peace and security" I would expect that to be on Yom Kippur which I think is September 25th this year. A counterfeit bill should at least look the same as the real thing.
1Thesalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Who is THEY?
 

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On March 11, 2020 all churches, synagogues, temples and mosque were SHUTDOWN. This was in the midst of the week. All our corporate prayers stopped.

No, just the opposite. March 11, 2020 was the middle of the week (of the 120th Jubilee cycle) and September 22, 2023 is the Abomination of Desolations spoken by Daniel and is 1290 days from March 11, 2020 to September 22, 2023. It just so happens that every year on September 21st that the UN has INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE. Is there a connection? Could be? or Maybe not? I'm watching and know personally two men who are flying to Jerusalem to be on site and will report back if there is something note worthy. Their suspicion is on Mount Golgotha (a most holy place where our LORD Jesus was crucified). What do you think the Abomination that causes one week" is only "seven years", but a Jubilee is (7 x 7) + 1 = 50/ Note below that 2020 is the middle of this final 120th Jubilee cycle.
No, the "week" is Israel's last and final week (70th) for their sins. Gabriel said:

Daniel 9
[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

All 70 weeks are accounted for in the next 3 verses.

Daniel 9
[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 

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No, the "week" is Israel's last and final week (70th) for their sins. Gabriel said:

Daniel 9
[24] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

All 70 weeks are accounted for in the next 3 verses.

Daniel 9
[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Yes, I believe that is the traditional teaching. However, viewing the same scriptures from the correct Sabbatical and Jubilee cycles, things look quite differently.
 

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On March 11, 2020 all churches, synagogues, temples and mosque were SHUTDOWN. This was in the midst of the week. All our corporate prayers stopped.

No, just the opposite. March 11, 2020 was the middle of the week (of the 120th Jubilee cycle) and September 22, 2023 is the Abomination of Desolations spoken by Daniel and is 1290 days from March 11, 2020 to September 22, 2023. It just so happens that every year on September 21st that the UN has INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE. Is there a connection? Could be? or Maybe not? I'm watching and know personally two men who are flying to Jerusalem to be on site and will report back if there is something note worthy. Their suspicion is on Mount Golgotha (a most holy place where our LORD Jesus was crucified). What do you think the Abomination that causes Desolation could be? One of my suspicions/theory is a bomb of some sort. Another theory is a statue like the one in Brazil. View attachment 254960 Or could it be a hologram? Or it may be a big nothing burger.

Please consider that "one week" can and probably is one Jubilee cycle. Not to say that "one week" is only "seven years", but a Jubilee is (7 x 7) + 1 = 50/ Note below that 2020 is the middle of this final 120th Jubilee cycle. 45 Sabbatical PROOFS with Documentation

Sabbitcal and Jubilees Chart from Adam to Now


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Why do you say all churches closed down? Around here hardly any did.
 

Grace911

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Daniel 9
[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Is there a scripture that calls Jesus a "PRINCE"? King David is known as an anointed prince, but NOT JESUS, He is King of Kings and not a prince.

Ezekiel 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.

Ezekiel 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

Sabbitcal and Jubilees Chart from Adam to Now

At the 51st Jubilee cycle we see Moses meets the LORD at the burning bush and told to go get His People out of Egypt (and he did in 1379 BC)

Then we see: At the 58th Jubilee cycle (7 weeks/cycles) David is born in 1040 BC and at the age of 30 years old in 1010 BC he is anointed to be King over all of Israel (12 tribes).

Add to this 62 weeks (120th Jubilee cycle/NOW our time) and we see once again the translator have capitalized "messiah" which is bias toward a preconceived belief that these verses are talking about Jesus, but the correct understanding of "messiah" is us, the anointed ones, and we were cut off from congregating in the middle of the week/Jubilee cycle. All churches, synagogues, temples, and mosques SHUTDOWN.

My question is who are the people that come and destroy the city and sanctuary?
 

Grace911

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Jesus' ministry began when He went into the synagogue and proclaimed the year of Jubilee on Yom Kippur, which is when you proclaim the year of jubilee. The Antichrist is a counterfeit Christ with a counterfeit ministry. So if he is going to proclaim "peace and security" I would expect that to be on Yom Kippur which I think is September 25th this year. A counterfeit bill should at least look the same as the real thing.
Yom Kippur is also known as Day of Atonement. This is when we see the two identical goats and the lot is thrown and one goat is led into the wilderness and goes over a cliff. This is the picture of Satan being taken out for a thousand years and will happen on a future Yom Kippur. As for this year and the Gregorian date of Yom Kippur I believe you could be spot on for most groups do not use Abib to start the year. However, the group I am with are celebrating Feast of Trumpets tonight because the new moon has been seen. We started one month before many others due to the witnesses giving a report that the barley was abib in March of this year, 2023. I will be fasting August 27th and dressed in all white as the tradition of some.
 

Grace911

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It wasn't just here. That's why I'm curious your date.
Yes, March 11, 2020 was the day that changed everything. You couldn't/shouldn't shake hands or give a hug. Masks were mandated. Here where I live, the churches locked up and slowly came back a year later. Grocery stores had designated times the elderly could shop and at the local WalMarts there was only one door to enter and exit and only ten people could enter at one time. I started using Instacart for groceries delivered to my apartment. I was considered high risk because I am diabetic. I don't believe "NORMAL" will ever come back. And the division of the jab versus no jab was crazy with so many conspiracies. Medical professionals where over worked or no work without the jab. Just as we are getting use to 2023 post 3 1/2 years from that infamous day, waiting for the other shoe to drop. What's next?