Israel Declares War
- Thread starter ThereRoseaLamb
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
"civilian targets were not acceptable" To whom? You need to know some history. The reason why Tokyo was not targeted is because it had already been razed. Most homes in Japan were flimsy wooden structures. The US airforce used incendiaries. Japan had no concept of "civilian/military". Housewives were being trained to use any weapon they could in order to kill American forces. There is film of this training. Britain's Royal Airforce was bombing German cities in retaliation for Germany's attacks on population centres. Civilians were at risk as soon as aircraft could carry bombloads sufficient to do real damage.
Apart from revenge, practically the idea was to hinder war production. Dead people don't make munitions and weapons. Bombing was also intended to demoralise and terrify civilians. Bombing factories, staffed by civilians, hindered war production of course.
Bombing in WW2, especially early in the war, was incredibly inaccurate. Even if the target was military, civilians often suffered. War is hell. Human nature is no better now than in the days of the worst excesses of ancient cultures. All that is changed is the means of causing destruction and suffering.
Apart from revenge, practically the idea was to hinder war production. Dead people don't make munitions and weapons. Bombing was also intended to demoralise and terrify civilians. Bombing factories, staffed by civilians, hindered war production of course.
Bombing in WW2, especially early in the war, was incredibly inaccurate. Even if the target was military, civilians often suffered. War is hell. Human nature is no better now than in the days of the worst excesses of ancient cultures. All that is changed is the means of causing destruction and suffering.
-
1
- Show all
There is nothing proportional about it, and there is no such rule that a response needs to be proportional. If I go up to a guy in a bar and punch him once and then he responds by going berserk and killing me in a fight, that would be considered self defense.
You don't have the right to kill 100 people and then get upset if the response kills 1,000 people.
You don't have the right to kill 100 people and then get upset if the response kills 1,000 people.
-
2
- Show all
Yes they are. No one is saying that the Jews are any more righteous than Hamas or their neighbors, they are all unbelievers and acting accordingly.
What we are saying is do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Cut off babies heads and don't cry if your babies are killed. Shoot civilians and don't complain if civilians are killed. This doesn't justify the Jews, nor does it annul God's covenant with Israel.
Everyone can understand that the Palestinians are not the same as the 1,000 or so Hamas fighters who went into Israel to kill people. The same is true of Israel, there could be many people that don't agree with the response, but they are not running the government.
What is happening is that all those judging Israel will be judged with their own words because they are condemning Israel for things their own countries have done and they justify. Some will say "Oh, I condemned that". Ok, and you don't think there are Jews who are like you and condemn what is happening and the course the government is taking?
I was in NYC during 9/11. I was very familiar with Iraq being a secular government so it didn't sound right to me that they orchestrated an extremist plot against the US. When I voiced my doubt the response was filled with hate. So I know that people who today are saying they had questions are often liars, it was very hard at that point to find anyone who was expressing any questions.
What we are saying is do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Cut off babies heads and don't cry if your babies are killed. Shoot civilians and don't complain if civilians are killed. This doesn't justify the Jews, nor does it annul God's covenant with Israel.
Everyone can understand that the Palestinians are not the same as the 1,000 or so Hamas fighters who went into Israel to kill people. The same is true of Israel, there could be many people that don't agree with the response, but they are not running the government.
What is happening is that all those judging Israel will be judged with their own words because they are condemning Israel for things their own countries have done and they justify. Some will say "Oh, I condemned that". Ok, and you don't think there are Jews who are like you and condemn what is happening and the course the government is taking?
I was in NYC during 9/11. I was very familiar with Iraq being a secular government so it didn't sound right to me that they orchestrated an extremist plot against the US. When I voiced my doubt the response was filled with hate. So I know that people who today are saying they had questions are often liars, it was very hard at that point to find anyone who was expressing any questions.
-
1
- Show all