Is it Necessary to do the Will of the Father to Enter Into the Kingdom of Heaven?

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ByTheGraceOfGod

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ThyKingdomComeSoon said:
Mat 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ will be subject to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fire of hell.

You could have expressed yourself in a milder way..
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Yeah, well, we all say things at times that are not said in the nicest of ways. It's called being human, and dealing with snarky trolls.
Is there anything of value that you wish to add to this, or did you just pop in to "correct" ?
Not that correction is a bad thing.... we all need it on a regular basis, but it gets tiresome if a person appoints themselves as the forum "corrector"..... if that is all they do.
 
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ByTheGraceOfGod said:
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John 11:25-26​
Jesus said to her, ​
"I AM the Resurrection and the Life. ​
He who believes in Me, ​
though he may die, he shall live,​
and whoever lives and believes in Me ​
shall never die. ​
Do you believe this?"​
 
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ByTheGraceOfGod

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posthuman said:
John 11:25-26​
Jesus said to her, ​
"I AM the Resurrection and the Life. ​
He who believes in Me, ​
though he may die, he shall live,​
and whoever lives and believes in Me ​
shall never die. ​
Do you believe this?"​
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ByTheGraceOfGod said:
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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ByTheGraceOfGod said:
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Matthew 8:2-3​
behold! ​
a leper came and worshiped Him, saying, ​
"Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean." ​
Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him! ​
Saying, ​
"I am willing; be cleansed." ​
Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.​
 
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ByTheGraceOfGod

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posthuman said:
Matthew 8:2-3​
behold! ​
a leper came and worshiped Him, saying, ​
"Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean." ​
Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him! ​
Saying, ​
"I am willing; be cleansed." ​
Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.​
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ByTheGraceOfGod said:
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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Komentaja said:
What is this??
Matthew 19:23-24
And Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly, I say to you, tonly with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter vthe kingdom of God.”

its the SAME thing.
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Why the two? Things that are different are not the same. Simply put, heaven and God are not the same. God is a spirit. Heaven is a created place. The Matthew passage is true concerning both.
 
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John146 said:
Why the two? Things that are different are not the same. Simply put, heaven and God are not the same. God is a spirit. Heaven is a created place. The Matthew passage is true concerning both.
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They indeed are the same. The city of brotherly love and Philly and birthplace of america and the city that loves you back and Philadelphia are the same thing.

You just saw these words used in the same verse interchangeably.
 
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Komentaja said:
They indeed are the same. The city of brotherly love and Philly and birthplace of america and the city that loves you back and Philadelphia are the same thing.

You just saw these words used in the same verse interchangeably.
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The spiritual kingdom of God cannot suffer violence nor can it be taken by force. It is a kingdom of righteousness within the believer.

Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
 
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John146 said:
The spiritual kingdom of God cannot suffer violence nor can it be taken by force.
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why not?

wasn't there war in heaven, and the cherubim Satan cast out?

so there can be spiritual violence

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musings, bro
good to see you
 
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posthuman said:
why not?

wasn't there war in heaven, and the cherubim Satan cast out?

so there can be spiritual violence

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musings, bro
good to see you
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The kingdom of God is within the believer and you’re saying it can be taken by force? One can lose it because it was taken by force? And the war in heaven, Satan tried to take over by force, a physical overthrow. He was physically cast out.
 
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