Israel Declares War

I think half the country is disgusted defending these rich elitists who call them deplorable, irredeemable, and domestic terrorists. Who tell them to shut up at every turn, who when their homes were stolen during the mortgage meltdown said the criminals were too big to prosecute.

They are disgusted that on the one hand they print money to pay for foreign wars and launder the money back to win their fraudulent elections and on the other hand they open wide the borders to bring in 8 million illegals to keep wages low.

It is government of the people, by the people and for the people. When the government stops supporting the people you can expect the people will stop supporting the government.

When they use lawfare to remove the people's political candidate you can expect the people will remove themselves from the union.

Yes. That I've already stated. But that's my point. You and others lament the present, but only offer the solution of copying the past. So you are actually arguing for more of the same, which only leads to more lamenting and more of the same. You haven't actually learned anything from history.

Yes, we need to eradicate terrorists. We did it with ISIS !! Remember when they sent Christians up into the mountains for fear of their lives?! We called them victims!! And we killed the terrorists! To sane people, that is a good thing!!

If you loved one was held hostage right now, you'd be angry, and you'd want something done about it. If you deny that you're a liar!! Like I said, we have a phrase that says " War is hell", not "Yippee more war!" smh

Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say I support Israel unequivocally. I support their right to defend their homeland and their people. They have 1% of the land in the ME and people like you want them to give that up!
Israel is only democracy in the ME. And if you think the Arabs are such fun folk and the Jews are the bad ones, I suggest you go live in a Muslim majority country and come and tell us how good they treat Christians there. All these morons here in the US hollering about Palestinians rights would be murdered flat out if the stepped a toenail in a Muslim country. Gays, feminists, trans, abortion supporters, Christians, any kind of freedom for women, gone! And if you think you're going to change them, you better open a history book.

Not sure. One is always welcome to take their ball and leave. Unfortunately, we all are less for that eventuality.

No we are talking about non-combatants/civilians/ innocent people and in law they are regarded the same so you need to be better informed.

Oh my land some sanity. I was starting to get worried.

Just, thank you for the common sense.

Every president has fallen in this pit since 48. Not one has come up with a solution. I don't believe there will be until Jesus comes. But if some sort of peace can be made till then, I hope someone can do so.

I haven't offered solutions of the past... Israel hasn't withdrew it's settlers from the West Bank or East Jerusalem. Israel hasn't ended it's blockade on Gaza.

In 2020, Trump explicitly called Netanyahu out for "never wanting to make peace with Palestinians". The left also didn't want Trump's "Ultimate Deal" to come to fruition because it would mean Trump would have been responsible for one of the biggest peace deals in history. As critical of Trump as I am, this dude would have a big notch on his belt if Netanyahu wasn't so war hungry.

Historically, this has already happened many times.


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Thank you for pointing out that historical and biblical fact! And we know that Israel is blinded for a time. They will recognize their Messiah and will grieve. We know this to be true because it's in the Word. Of course Israel isn't right in all they do, no more than America is. But in this instance, I don't see where they are wrong.


Nothing to add but thanks for posting. You said it all.

Many would argue that the police should kill everyone in the room to "save lives". They should "target" the shooter while simultaneously blowing everyone up. In this, they can say they were targeting the shooter and the other 20 students were just "collateral damage".

False Equivalence - the fallacy of apples and oranges:

1.) Although we should always have compassion for innocent life, it is nonetheless a false equivalence to compare a school shooting to a war.

2.) A war, just or unjust, is a different category, and should be debated according to the principles and issues which apply.

3.) I'm not claiming it's not open to debate; I'm claiming that logic still applies when everyone is upset... whether we like it or not.



It's a good time to remind everyone, that this absence of logic is the very reason that Jews around the world, who had no involvement in any of this, are suddenly being targeted and attacked.

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You were comparing a school shooting to war, that is ridiculous, that's my point.

You wouldn't know it talking to some here. To them Hamas and Israel are the same. Not that Hamas are terrorists and Israel is the only democracy in the ME. Like I said, if you don't think there is a difference, you need to go live in a Muslim majority theocracy and see if you want to side with them so much.

Somebody laughed at this? .

Pointing out similarities is not suggesting they are the same. Hamas is a terrorist organization and I've said I don't think Israel is a terrorist state, though they are committing war crimes which are terroristic in nature.