Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Nehemiah6

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Trump isn't the problem
Absolutely right. Trump was a part of the solution until he allowed the Deep State operatives and his enemies to take control of his presidency, and his excellent agenda to Make America Great Again. But if you recall he promised to clean out the Swamp, and that is exactly why the Leftists and the Deep State and all the Alligators created Trump Derangement Syndrome.

This mental and spiritual disorder tells its adherents that it DOES NOT MATTER what Trump does which is good and righteous, and for the good of the nation. Trump is evil, a Nazi, Hitler, a White Supremacist, an Orangeman, a dictator, an enemy of democracy, blah, blah, blah.

From day one the Leftist plan was to oppose and destroy every effort by Trump to fix the many problems left by Obama. But then Trump also sabotaged himself, and surrounded himself with his own enemies. He also joined the GOP when in fact most of them hated him. So the RINOs in government also opposed him How do you explain that? Opposition from both Left and Right (while Biden gets 100% support from both sides)?

Trump had a golden opportunity to create a third political party, which would have drawn away all the true conservative voters from the feckless and cowardly GOP. He might also have attracted a whole lot of undecided voters, as well as Blacks, Jews, Hispanics etc. by showing them how the Democrats were actually their enemies.

Today the Black are saying that they need to get out of the Democrats "plantation" (since they got enslaved all over again by the Leftists and are now being destroyed). Today the Jews in America are finally realizing that they too are hated by the Democrats, who are all for the Hamas terrorists. And the Hispanics who are genuine citizens are totally opposed to the cartel-controlled southern border, and the flooding of illegals in order to destroy America and its elections.

Possibly it is now too late for America, and God may allow its total destruction. How can Trump even win when the entire election system in the USA has been corrupted? Addressing that issue should have been one of his top priorities, but he got sidetracked and sabotaged. Therefore the 2020 election was simply stolen. Chances are that it will happen again in 2024.
 
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You misunderstood what I wrote. People are free to vote however they want. I'm not saying they shouldn't. But there are some truly serious problems in this country, and a child of God should be able to identify them and their causes. You don't seem to possess the ability to discern either the true problems or the true causes, even though myself and others have enumerated them. And this is what I find surprising.
I'm not questioning whether you are a Christian or not. But I am surprised that there are so many professing Christians who lack the ability to discern between what is good and what is evil.
IMO,there Is NOTHING GODly about Donald Trump and once again I can’t believe a so called christian wouldn’t see that,at least look at the things he has said.
 

ZNP

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IMO,there Is NOTHING GODly about Donald Trump and once again I can’t believe a so called christian wouldn’t see that,at least look at the things he has said.
IMO there is nothing godly about MSNBC, or about Target, or Disney, or Facebook. or Meta, or Pfizer, or Hunter Biden, or Liz Cheney, or Carvill, or ...

I don't understand how a "Christian" can be manipulated by these ones. At least look at the lies they have perpetrated.
 

Cameron143

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IMO,there Is NOTHING GODly about Donald Trump and once again I can’t believe a so called christian wouldn’t see that,at least look at the things he has said.
I never said Trump was a Christian. Cyrus wasn't a Jew either. But God used him to deliver Israel. And God may use Trump. I don't know. That's not the point. Your focus is Trump. It should be on the evil that is going on at the top of both parties. And you don't understand what needs to be done or who can actually do that.
I don't have anything against you personally. You are probably a great guy. But you are woefully ignorant of the estate of American and world politics and the forces undergirding them. Your preference for Pence is reflective of this. But I honestly don't believe no matter how much someone explains this to you, you will understand it.
And I find it strange that the people of God are less wise in their generation than the children of darkness.
 
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I never said Trump was a Christian. Cyrus wasn't a Jew either. But God used him to deliver Israel. And God may use Trump. I don't know. That's not the point. Your focus is Trump. It should be on the evil that is going on at the top of both parties. And you don't understand what needs to be done or who can actually do that.
I don't have anything against you personally. You are probably a great guy. But you are woefully ignorant of the estate of American and world politics and the forces undergirding them. Your preference for Pence is reflective of this. But I honestly don't believe no matter how much someone explains this to you, you will understand it.
And I find it strange that the people of God are less wise in their generation than the children of darkness.
I disagree with everything you said here but It’s ok to agree to disagree.
 
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IMO there is nothing godly about MSNBC, or about Target, or Disney, or Facebook. or Meta, or Pfizer, or Hunter Biden, or Liz Cheney, or Carvill, or ...

I don't understand how a "Christian" can be manipulated by these ones. At least look at the lies they have perpetrated.
You forgot fox😂
 

rrcn

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Can anyone list:
  • 10 things that Trump has done for them.
  • 10 issues where he fell short.
  • Their reasonable expectations for his Presidency if he is elected.
 

Nehemiah6

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IMO,there Is NOTHING GODly about Donald Trump...
That may be your criterion but for voters (Christians and non-Christians alike) the real issue was this: "Was Trump's platform for his presidency to make America stronger and greater, or to destroy America and make it a third world hellhole?" (which is Biden's ambition, or more accurately puppet-master Obama's ambition).
 

gb9

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IMO there is nothing godly about MSNBC, or about Target, or Disney, or Facebook. or Meta, or Pfizer, or Hunter Biden, or Liz Cheney, or Carvill, or ...

I don't understand how a "Christian" can be manipulated by these ones. At least look at the lies they have perpetrated.
i went into target about a year and a half ago, hunting something i could not find anywhere else.

from the time i got there, went inside ( for maybe 10 minutes) until i left, i felt bad , terrible in my soul.

i will never go back.
 

iamsoandso

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i went into target about a year and a half ago, hunting something i could not find anywhere else.

from the time i got there, went inside ( for maybe 10 minutes) until i left, i felt bad , terrible in my soul.

i will never go back.

Yep,,, a year and a half ago,,right as the pandemic was at it's peak I was really tired of hearing that the pandemic was the reason....
 
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even if Trump was a godly man, in four years, he cost the tax Payers almost 11 Trillion dollars to our deficit.
financial institutes in America have claimed the Nation doesn't even have enough Credit to get a loan from them.

another 4 years our Nation's deficit would be where Greece is at and Greece is well known worldwide as the Bankrupt Nation.

we will have no choice but go to this new electronic dollar, world bank, rfid chip implant system the other Nations are implementing.

rather see a bus smack Trump broadside than have to deal with the issues being forced to get chipped.
 
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I'm not sure why Trump fanatics and Republicans have issues with Biden. Then need to take a closer look at themselves.
Biden is as retarded as Trump.

both think they can fix the world when they both are like mafia

rather have DeSanto's since Iowa picked him and the Church Leaders, not the maga fakes, real church Leaders are now dumping Trump.
 
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MAGA cult members make statements like that in a futile attempt to shame others thinking they will support their orange dictator.
ever see johnny Enlow, Greg Locke, and the rest of maga "prophets?"

since 2020, they have made over 300 prophecies, we're talking like [[God told me in 21 days this is going to happen]]...almost 4 years now and not a single prophecy has come true.

wonder which of their god's told them that?
 
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Joe Biden is a safe bet

With Joe Biden you know what you are going to get, with Trump he is a wild card. You could get three years of peace and security or you could get 1 year of a worldwide pandemic and the "summer of love". With Trump you get 3am Tweets that are provocative.

But with Joe Biden you know what you are going to get. He is a known quantity. War, you bet, this will be a very profitable time to be invested in the industrial military complex. Bankruptcies, absoutely, again, great time to buy a car or house at a bankruptcy auction as long as you move your money to cash. Cheap labor, oh yeah, he'll bring in 8 million illegals to replace the existing blue collar workers who think they should be paid a living wage. Weaponized DOJ? Yep, don't have to worry about those pro life pastors, he'll use SWAT teams to take them down.
i hate both Biden and Trump, but to your post...yep, manufacturing is booming right now
 

ZNP

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IMO,there Is NOTHING GODly about Donald Trump and once again I can’t believe a so called christian wouldn’t see that,at least look at the things he has said.
Looking at the things Joe Biden has said

Joe Biden Used Email Aliases To Correspond With Hunter’s Business Partner 327 Times

https://thefederalist.com/2023/12/0...pond-with-hunters-business-partner-327-times/

Newly unearthed emails obtained by House investigators reveal that Joe Biden used multiple email pseudonyms to communicate with his son’s business associate more than 300 times in the years prior to becoming president. The revelations further disprove Joe’s claims that he had no knowledge of or involvement with his family’s business affairs.

Acquired by the House Ways and Means Committee, the 56 pages of evidence released on Tuesday included 327 emails from 2010-2019 “showing Joe Biden’s correspondence – via email aliases – with a key Hunter Biden business associate,” with a majority of these communications taking place during Biden’s time as vice president. As The Federalist previously reported, the National Archives has identified thousands of records containing the pseudonyms Joe used while serving as President Obama’s second-in-command.

For those who have not been following this story, everyone has confirmed that Hunter Biden was selling access to Joe Biden. That of course is a crime, but is it fraud (was Hunter scamming people) or was it legit. If he was truly selling access to Joe Biden then of course Joe Biden is involved, it is a felony, and might even be treason. Joe Biden's defense has been that "he never had anything to do with Hunter Biden's business affairs", in other words, Hunter Biden is a piece of S**t to be wiped off Joe's shoe, but he is innocent. 327 emails proves it is a lie that Joe had nothing to do with them, and using an alias to communicate indicates intent to commit a crime. There have already been confirmed cases where Hunter's business partners came to the Whitehouse and met Joe, the argument there was Joe simply came in and shook a few hands and left. Meeting a friend of Hunter's is not proof of wrong doing, these emails are proof.

Deuteronomy 33:29 Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the Lord, the shield of thy help, and who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee; and thou shalt tread upon their high places.
 

ZNP

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Is Trump a modern day Cyrus?

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

26 That confirmeth the word of his servant, and performeth the counsel of his messengers; that saith to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, Ye shall be built, and I will raise up the decayed places thereof:

27 That saith to the deep, Be dry, and I will dry up thy rivers:

28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.