TEMPLE......TO BE OR NOT TO BE....THAT IS MY QUESTION!!!!!

I said and meant personal salvation issue where you hint at someone not being saved.

As for salvation being a theme of this discussion that's fine nowt wrong with that.

-actually Abraham was given a few promises.. Only one part of all of the promises concerns the eternal life given through his seed (in you shall all the nations of the world be blessed)

I am talking about a few of the other promises. Which have nothing to do with this one promise

Do people understand the difference between prophecy, and parables?

it seems this is part of the problem that mixes things up

Don't forget 1Kings 4:21+ where Israel ruled in the days of Solomon when all the kingdoms gave tribute to him. Then so from the flood to Babel there was no ruling kingdom(Lord confused their language/put a stop to it) Then Egypt became the earths dominant until the Hebrews were delivered and became dominant in the region/world(1 kings 4) ,,then Babylon,M/Persia,Greece and then the sixth Rome... https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_kings/4.htm

Did I ever tell you how nice it is to have my own personal scribe?

Do people understand the difference between prophecy, and parables?

it seems this is part of the problem that mixes things up

I think it’s important to know what the Bible actually says so I was just trying to support what you said with scripture

Now that I'm remembering, what is it you want me to remember?

I know and much appreciated.

Now that I'm remembering, what is it you want me to remember?

No you’re not. Your talking about a promise God made to ever nation in the world. And the people in all of those nations..

Definately not the things of old brother

“Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert. This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise.

But thou hast not called upon me, O Jacob; but thou hast been weary of me, O Israel. Thou hast not brought me the small cattle of thy burnt offerings; neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices. I have not caused thee to serve with an offering, nor wearied thee with incense. Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified. Thy first father hath sinned, and thy teachers have transgressed against me.

Therefore I have profaned the princes of the sanctuary, and have given Jacob to the curse, and Israel to reproaches.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭43:18-19, 21-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

indeed I laughed always appreciate your humor

Yes. I did and I do.

I was wondering the same thing about you.

"what's Jesus saying TO THEM in that parable ?"... I explained that in my post. No need to repeat myself here. (see that post again, maybe??)




I did acknowledge what Jesus is talking about.



... and that is EXACTLY what they will "SAY" in that future "7-yr period" leading up to Christ's Second Coming to the earth (what we call the tribulation period), FOR the promised and prophesied earthly Milllennial Kingdom age, commencing upon His "RETURN" there (to the earth)... the MK age variously KNOWN (in scripture) AS "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" (not "UP IN Heaven")... "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER"... "the MEAL [G347]"... "My barn"... "the throne of His glory"... etc.


[they will "SAY" this (in the "future" Trib yrs)... reflective of what Joseph's own brothers were required, in/during Joseph's "seven year famine" ]









John 6:39,40 is speaking of two distinct matters which will be raised up "IN the LAST DAY" (not a "singular 24-hr day" kind of "day"--but the LAST MILLENIUM--the SEVENTH and LAST--what Hosea calls "IN the THIRD DAY" because factored from the time of His ascension, in that passage, referring to ISRAEL's "future"... same subject as Ezek37:12-14,20-23,26,28... and Dan12:1-3,4... and Isa26:13-21... and in Romans 11:15[,25]... etc... ALL of these passages LIKENING it to a "resurrection," but speaking of Israel coming up out of the "graveyard of nations, WHERE SCATTERED")] :

--[Jn6] v.39 speaks of PEOPLE (the "saved" PERSONS... bodily resurrected);

--[Jn6] v.40 speaks of THINGS (His throne / government-al THINGS... the kind of thing that His disciples asked Him regarding the TIMING about in Acts 1 ("wilt thou AT THIS TIME *restore* again the kingdom TO ISRAEL?"... and to which He responded to their question ABOUT ITS TIMING with words concerning ITS TIMING, not its NATURE which aspect they well-understood... they just did not understand its TIMING, hence their specific question to Him there])



And in Acts 3:21, Peter says (to "ye men of Israel" v.12), about Jesus... "whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age."




It seems to me that it is you who does not understand what is being said in these various passages under present discussion.

Ok. So what do you believe the new thing is?

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭31:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

A new covenant brother which means a new everything

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. ( old covenant )

Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. …..The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So we need

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:

and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and we have our hope

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:

for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He promised also to create new people who would be filled with his spirit and would actually learn from him and walk in his ways gladly and willingly that would fill that new creation

This creation we live in now is doomed

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

he promised a New Testament a new creation new people born of every nation based on faith in him a new promised land a new everything we want to look to his word that we can’t see yet the promises beyond this life

Sure. But the land promise was fulfilled in the days of Joshua. Whatever you think should have been included and has not transpired doesn't really matter.

I will say that I have come across such passages and had to reconsider what I had previously believed. I've found such apparent conundrums are very instructional, and reconciled by adopting my thinking to what scripture teaches.
I'm not trying here to place myself in a superior position, but offering iron.

Agree wholeheartedly. The second section of Isaiah could be another gospel if it were moved to the NT.

do you understand that parables spoken in the bible could have happened spirituality

Or do you take the stance Jesus was speaking in hypotheticals and scenarios

……right tbat was a quote from the post I was responding to yours I believe ……

my point was always that aBrahams covenant was made with him For all nations …….Abram the Hebrews descendants are the others who received the covenant made at Sinai with one specific nation through Moses

abrahams covenant is about Jesus and the gospel it’s what God promised israel to save them from the curse they brought on themselves breaking the old covenant ….

Sure. But the land promise was fulfilled in the days of Joshua. Whatever you think should have been included and has not transpired doesn't really matter.
I will say that I have come across such passages and had to reconsider what I had previously believed. I've found such apparent conundrums are very instructional, and reconciled by adopting my thinking to what scripture teaches.
I'm not trying here to place myself in a superior position, but offering iron.