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"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he (Jesus) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:7-9
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he (Jesus) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:7-9
God does not baptize anyone nor preach to anyone nor anything else of the kind. He left his work to man to do. Man does the immersion of others into Christ as clearly demonstrated by the examples found in God's word. Who baptized.the Ethiopian eunuch, Philip or God? Who baptized the Jews on the day of Pentecost, Peter and the apostles, or God? Who baptized Saul (Paul), Ananias or God? Wake up!
lol. Tell that to God..
Your pastor can not baptize you into Christ (romans 6 and Gal 3)
Your pastor can not baptize you into his death (romans 6)
Your pastor can not baptize you in his body (1 cor 12)
Your pastor can not baptize you into the baptism he was baptized with (Matt 20)
Only God can do these things supernaturally.
All your pastor can do is baptise you in water..
False.
Your attributing the work of God to the work of man.
Thats blasphemy
Your pastor can not baptize you into Christ (romans 6 and Gal 3)
Your pastor can not baptize you into his death (romans 6)
Your pastor can not baptize you in his body (1 cor 12)
Your pastor can not baptize you into the baptism he was baptized with (Matt 20)
Only God can do these things supernaturally.
All your pastor can do is baptise you in water..
False.
Your attributing the work of God to the work of man.
Thats blasphemy
The body of Christ is not what I would call it, but rather what it is according to the bible: the church
Baptism is not for the purpose of an outward demonstration of anything to anyone. It's to be washed of your sins, to become a member of the body of Christ, the church. Who was present when the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized by Philip as recorded in Acts 8? Just him and Philip; so, who was it an outward expression to, Philip? That's utter nonsense.
And you have no understanding of the thief on the cross as it relates to baptism: it doesn't have any correlation to baptism whatsoever! Jesus was yet alive when he made the promise to the thief and forgave him. So, the need for baptism was not an issue. Baptism did not become a requirement until after the Lord's death. See below a short dissertation on this subject previously posted here and elsewhere.
REPOST
I continually encounter people trying to justify that baptism is not an absolute necessity for one's salvation by use (erroneously) of the thief on the cross as justification, as he was not baptized but yet saved by the Lord, which is true! BUT, the error in this is the lack of understanding of the scriptures. You must read and understand Hebrews 9:15-17 which clarifies why the thief on the cross was saved by Jesus without being baptized. Christ was still alive when this occurred meaning it was done while the old testament or covenant was still in effect; the new testament had not yet been established because Christ had not yet died. And since the Lord was still alive no one could possibly be baptized into Christ under NT salvation criteria. Baptism did not become a requirement as part of salvation until the new testament began which was after the death of Christ. Jesus forgave the thief on the cross no different than he forgave others during his earthly ministry, such as the woman caught in the act of adultery as recorded in John 8. Baptism should not even be an issue when discussing the thief on the cross, but unfortunately always is, but in error.
Hebrews 9:15-17
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Baptism is not for the purpose of an outward demonstration of anything to anyone. It's to be washed of your sins, to become a member of the body of Christ, the church. Who was present when the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized by Philip as recorded in Acts 8? Just him and Philip; so, who was it an outward expression to, Philip? That's utter nonsense.
And you have no understanding of the thief on the cross as it relates to baptism: it doesn't have any correlation to baptism whatsoever! Jesus was yet alive when he made the promise to the thief and forgave him. So, the need for baptism was not an issue. Baptism did not become a requirement until after the Lord's death. See below a short dissertation on this subject previously posted here and elsewhere.
REPOST
I continually encounter people trying to justify that baptism is not an absolute necessity for one's salvation by use (erroneously) of the thief on the cross as justification, as he was not baptized but yet saved by the Lord, which is true! BUT, the error in this is the lack of understanding of the scriptures. You must read and understand Hebrews 9:15-17 which clarifies why the thief on the cross was saved by Jesus without being baptized. Christ was still alive when this occurred meaning it was done while the old testament or covenant was still in effect; the new testament had not yet been established because Christ had not yet died. And since the Lord was still alive no one could possibly be baptized into Christ under NT salvation criteria. Baptism did not become a requirement as part of salvation until the new testament began which was after the death of Christ. Jesus forgave the thief on the cross no different than he forgave others during his earthly ministry, such as the woman caught in the act of adultery as recorded in John 8. Baptism should not even be an issue when discussing the thief on the cross, but unfortunately always is, but in error.
Hebrews 9:15-17
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Whatever you call it, the body of Christ in the world now are all the real believers, those really in Christ, whether there is church or not. Our washing from unrighteousness that is contrary to God is the effect of the atonement from Christ who we come to with essential faith having repentance, and God's Spirit working in us. We are baptized with this, the one way to be in Christ. When he told his apostles to go to all nations baptizing those among them, it was a commandment for going and baptizing, this would just be water baptisms that those baptizing ones, who are already believers, could do, there wasn't a commandment for going and getting baptized. So that is an outward sign, there is no work that any among us would do the will get any of them saved, salvation from God is all in Christ who we need. That all believers have the one baptism means that those who get baptized in water already had that baptism before, as believers.
You, your logic, makes no sense scripturally.
There is one baptism, and that's by immersion in water for the forgiveness of sins. That's what the scriptures say, and consistently teach. You can't be saved while still in sin, and the way sin is removed is by baptism into Christ for their remission.
And it's not an outward sign to anyone of anything. The Ethiopian eunuch as recorded in Acts 8, was baptized by Philip in the middle of nowhere in front of no one.
There is one baptism, and that's by immersion in water for the forgiveness of sins. That's what the scriptures say, and consistently teach. You can't be saved while still in sin, and the way sin is removed is by baptism into Christ for their remission.
And it's not an outward sign to anyone of anything. The Ethiopian eunuch as recorded in Acts 8, was baptized by Philip in the middle of nowhere in front of no one.
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op: One Baptism?
No? Some say there are, today, Under Grace, Two, One Baptism By The
One Spirit, To Translate the new-born babe Into The One Body Of Christ,
and:
# 2, so they say, is water, for some kind of symbolism in Romans 6:3-4?
There is no such interpretation in that Passage, As It Is The Same One
[ Spiritual ] Baptism as found in Several Other One [ Spiritual ] Baptism
Passages - ie:
(1 Corinthians 12:13; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27 AV), and, FurtherMoreOver:
Why do they Never interpret This Passage As Having Two " bodies, Spirits,
hopes, Lords, faiths, and Fathers", just one section as Two baptisms, eh?:
The One Lord Jesus Christ, and In His One Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!
Amen.
No? Some say there are, today, Under Grace, Two, One Baptism By The
One Spirit, To Translate the new-born babe Into The One Body Of Christ,
and:
# 2, so they say, is water, for some kind of symbolism in Romans 6:3-4?
There is no such interpretation in that Passage, As It Is The Same One
[ Spiritual ] Baptism as found in Several Other One [ Spiritual ] Baptism
Passages - ie:
(1 Corinthians 12:13; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27 AV), and, FurtherMoreOver:
Why do they Never interpret This Passage As Having Two " bodies, Spirits,
hopes, Lords, faiths, and Fathers", just one section as Two baptisms, eh?:
"Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope
of your calling; One Lord, one faith, One Baptism, One God and Father
of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. "
(Ephesians 4:3-6 AV)
And, Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified In The One Lord Jesus Christ, and In His One Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!
Amen.
All disciples are called to baptize.
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
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If you are not a disciple then yes, Shilohsfoal you are not commanded to baptize.
But Paul was part of the Great Commission and he certainly was commanded and did baptize.
Here is the text:
1 Corinthians 1:17, “For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.”
This is the context:
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.)
It does not take much to see that Paul is not degrading baptism but the foolishness of some who put value in the person doing the baptizing.
It's really that simple.
But Paul was part of the Great Commission and he certainly was commanded and did baptize.
Here is the text:
1 Corinthians 1:17, “For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.”
This is the context:
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.)
It does not take much to see that Paul is not degrading baptism but the foolishness of some who put value in the person doing the baptizing.
It's really that simple.
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