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Gojira

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Agree absolutely. It is called national apathy. Not that everyone just doesn't care but no one knows where to begin or what to do and how to achieve it.

Some want one political party to forcefully overthrow the other and to outlaw their manifesto.

Others hope those that are voted in will eventually secure these issues.

Others have given up.
I think most people are disengaged. And, they're inundated with NBC, CBS and ABC, as well as the headlines of their local papers, all largely progressive-leaning. They're not going to hear these things. If these orgs did their jobs, the American might stop and start raising some heck about it. But, between disinformation from the press, and distractions galore, they have no reason to rise up. Bread and circuses, you know.
 

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I think most people are disengaged. And, they're inundated with NBC, CBS and ABC, as well as the headlines of their local papers, all largely progressive-leaning. They're not going to hear these things. If these orgs did their jobs, the American might stop and start raising some heck about it. But, between disinformation from the press, and distractions galore, they have no reason to rise up. Bread and circuses, you know.
I agree with you that both politicians and media have brought Trump to descend on themselves. He is like a backlash against their ignorance of ordinary people. Unfortunately he’s also a backlash to the same people supporting him. But I guess the establishment has been too busy getting a piece of the cake to realize how their behavior has changed the voters minds.
 

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Y'all need to remember what God says in the Bible... It's not man that does it... We are in a battle between God and hasatan, good and evil:

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 

YWPMI

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I forgot this one:
Daniel 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever he will, and sets up over it the basest of men.

So... no matter whose in office, God put him/her there. We are only supposed to pray for them.
 

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So... no matter whose in office, God put him/her there. We are only supposed to pray for them
To an extent, I agree- but as I've pointed out before, there are cases in the scripture where an illegitimate person seized power. In any case, we should and do pray for the nation and those in authority.

The purpose of this thread is not to oppose legitimate authority; but help determine legitimate authority in accordance with the Constitution and law by looking at possible examples of fraud; and more importantly- systematic weaknesses of the election system that might pre-dispose it to fraud.
 

Gojira

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To an extent, I agree- but as I've pointed out before, there are cases in the scripture where an illegitimate person seized power. In any case, we should and do pray for the nation and those in authority.

The purpose of this thread is not to oppose legitimate authority; but help determine legitimate authority in accordance with the Constitution and law by looking at possible examples of fraud; and more importantly- systematic weaknesses of the election system that might pre-dispose it to fraud.
We the people... in the US, saying the people rule is not just a nicety. It's the philosophy of our society. And, only we can give that power up.
 

gb9

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We the people... in the US, saying the people rule is not just a nicety. It's the philosophy of our society. And, only we can give that power up.
we the people need to be more aware of " we the people" and what it really means...
 

ZNP

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That should happen in our schools... but you know what's happening there.
why? The bible puts the responsibility to teach your children on the parents. Who says it is the responsibility of unbelievers to teach your children?
 

gb9

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That should happen in our schools... but you know what's happening there.
yes, they make woke and trans kids out of normal kids...
 

Gojira

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why? The bible puts the responsibility to teach your children on the parents. Who says it is the responsibility of unbelievers to teach your children?
You're right. How silly of me to expect sanity and decency from our teachers.
 

Gojira

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yes, they make woke and trans kids out of normal kids...
There was an antifa dude caught on camera saying that he thought it was his job to raise revolutionaries. A puppet of the enemy for sure, and deserving of not walking within 1,000 feet of our kids, never mind teaching a class.
 

ZNP

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You're right. How silly of me to expect sanity and decency from our teachers.
If you believe education is important than why wouldn't an enemy want to undermine our schools? Even if 90% of teachers are decent and sane doesn't mean 10% wouldn't be marxists with an agenda.
 

Gojira

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If you believe education is important than why wouldn't an enemy want to undermine our schools? Even if 90% of teachers are decent and sane doesn't mean 10% wouldn't be marxists with an agenda.
There was a time we didn't have to worry about this. Certainly not in the 18th and 19th centuries. That is what we need to get back to.
 

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why? The bible puts the responsibility to teach your children on the parents. Who says it is the responsibility of unbelievers to teach your children?
I agree, I've always been for home schooling, yes. But how else would parents (usually single parent homes) support their kids if they don't work? I had to work 2, sometimes 3 jobs just to make ends meet!