Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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FollowerofShiloh

FollowerofShiloh

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7thMoon said:
Jesus was not saved.
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The Apostle John said Jesus was : 20 .... Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

The Apostle Paul said Jesus was : 13 .... our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus said about Himself : 62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."


So how can Jesus, the Living God, true God, and great God and Savior not be saved?
 
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7thMoon said:
Does god break the laws of time and space to prevent deaths? He wakes the dead; he doesn't save them. Wow, didn't expect the bluntness to get on people's nerves.
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Well I think this answers it.

Your not saved, so I understand why you can not comprehend salvation.. Since you think God can not save you
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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7thMoon said:
You are not safe either. And you know it.
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Oh I am safe, because its not about me, its about the love of God and his promise

I know I have eternal life..

I am not trying to earn it and trying to depend on self. i already proved I am unworthy..
 
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Mormons
JWs
Unitarians
Agnostics
Atheists
90% Jews

Those who do not believe that Jesus is God.

Possibly Vedic Astrologists could be included.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
The physically dead can not do anything, good or bad.., they are dead

Thats not the same as a spiritually dead person who can actually do some good deeds..
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It is the same! There's a reason why Romans 3 says there is "No one who does good!" The "good" they do, they still do in a state of sin. In other words their righteousness is still as filthy rags! Would you care for me to explain the how and the why?
 
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Rufus

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Everlasting-Grace said:
But thats not what romans 9 is about. it is about the question did God make a mistake chosing Israel as his elect nation.. Actually romans 9 - 11 discusses pauls thinking on this.
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Right. And your point is...???
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
The Apostle John said Jesus was : 20 .... Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

The Apostle Paul said Jesus was : 13 .... our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus said about Himself : 62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."


So how can Jesus, the Living God, true God, and great God and Savior not be saved?
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he had nothing to be saved from He is GOD
 
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Rufus

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FollowerofShiloh said:
The Apostle John said Jesus was : 20 .... Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

The Apostle Paul said Jesus was : 13 .... our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus said about Himself : 62. But Yeshua said to him, "I AM THE LIVING GOD, and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of Heaven."


So how can Jesus, the Living God, true God, and great God and Savior not be saved?
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I have a better question: From what did the sinless Jesus need to be saved?
 
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Rufus said:
I have a better question: From what did the sinless Jesus need to be saved?
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Supposedly, death. But that violates the scriptural definition of the Greek word σῴζω 'to save'.
 
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7thMoon said:
Are you saved, being saved, or to be completely saved? According to James White, it isn't about the prevention of death, but about the afterlife. Perhaps, it isn't my faith/trust, but others misfaith in things unnecessary.
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or not
 
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