Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

you make salvation conditional upon the choice of man and not the grace of God which was given to His people before time began (2 Tim 1:9) and not those He justly casts into Hell.

You would do well to ponder your handle.

Only the elect can ever be born-again.

He did, the Bible says He did. Anything else is a flat out lie.

God doesn't choose who will and will not be saved. Anyone who believes that believes a false Gospel. Stop teaching it to others for the love of GOD!

Proved wrong with Scripture.

The Bible does not state this and I challenge you to prove so. The word "world" does not mean every single person in the world without exemption but people throughout the whole world without distinction.

Rev_7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

you better rebuke the Apostle Paul then,

2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth,

Here are some other verses for you to ponder.

41 Bible Verses about election, to salvation

It doesn't, you've been proven wrong with Scripture. You believe false doctrine, period. Anyone who can read understands what is being said. You denying what is written in black and white right before your eyes makes you a denier. Utterly wrong. I believe what I read and see. You do not.

My Bibles says in,

Matthew 10:34-35
34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;

I believe sound doctrine because God tells me to.

you don't understand what it means

If he had come to bring peace you wouldn't be here now the world would have been judged 2000 years ago if he came to bring peace

He came to bring a sword to save you first

When he comes back to bring peace the world will be judged

It is possible that I may have misunderstood, what CS1 believes. I tried to work it out but it's unclear to me because all got got was that they just believe what the Lord Jesus Christ teaches. That confused me because I also believe that but we have different interpretations of the same gospel.

I pointed out the fact that there are countless different interpretations, but everyone claims to poses the one true interpretation.

Yes I am a Catholic, but please don't confuse that with Roman Catholicism. Catholic translates to universal, o I do belon to the universal Church of Christ. But it's Head is not the Pope of Rome, it's the Lord Jesus Christ, I consider the Pope to be Antichrist

You sound very sure of yourself, I hope your faith in yourself will endure the race set before you. I don't lean on my understanding, so I can't be 110% sure of myself in anything, that's why I have placed my trust in the Lord

That's OK, brother. I don't mind people calling me evil, they accused the Lord of being a Devil as well and He forgave them so I don't take any criticism personally. My only concern is what God thinks of me, because He is my judge and not any man

It's ok Charlie thanks for accepting my apologie

I Shouldn't have said that its just I probably meant to say you were acting evil, we all do sometimes

But I know there's good in you.

God doesn't tempt any man because man doesn't need any help from anyone to sin. He sins because that's his nature, so he will naturally gravitate towards sin and disobey God.

God already determined that man would sin before that period between creation and the fall. He already prepared His Son to save His Elect before He created the world. So He determined the exact number of people He would save long before He made the world. He knew each of us intimately by name, long before He created the world.

The Bible does teach that God is a mystery, and He has revealed very little to us at this stage. But He will reveal a lot more to us when we receive our glorified bodies and come into His presence. He obviously has a good reason for hiding most things from us, so we need to be very careful not to make assumptions and draw conclusions about those things He hid from us.

Remember how God told Pharaoh to let His people go, yet He hardened Pharos heart at the same time and caused him not to let the people go. He created Lucifer to become Satan for His own good reason which we will understand when He reveals His reason to us at the appointed time.

The Bible does teach that God's ways are infinitely higher than ours, and we are told that His ways are past finding out. So I don't think it's wise to go against His warnings and dabble in things that are beyond human reasoning and understanding.

Seeking out the things God has hidden is like necromancy and witchcraft, God forbids those things for good reason. If He revealed them to us, they would literally blow our minds.

I apologize; my PC is acting up and changing words. Let me be clear: Christ died for all, even if not all will be saved. We don't know who God has chosen to save, so it should not be our focus.

I must have missed something, because I can't see how the TULIP doctrine challenges God's authority.

If Calvin said, Christians should not question God's plan, but rather trust in God's "good intentions". If anything there may be some confusion with the language translation if he used the term "good intensions" as that is not a good translation. A better translation would be "God's righteous decrees"

We can't attribute words like "intensions" to God, because He doesn't have any intensions. Men can have intensions because we never know if we will follow through as many fall away, but with God, He just speaks something into existence and it is done. There is no process or plan to work on a project or anything. He just speaks and it's done.

Your interpretation is contrary to mine so we most defiantly have entirely different beliefs of who God is. They seem to be very different Gods, and you sound very sure of yourself so I don't even know if you're open to the possibility that you have created a fictitious god in your mind.

Please qualify your statements with "I don't believe" when you make sweeping statements like, "what Calvin taught is a false gospel". It's OK for you not to agree with Calvin, but you should respect the hundreds of millions of Christians who do believe what he taught was biblically sound.

And who are the "anyone" and "everyone" in 2 Peter 3:9 Who were those words spoken to, they weren't intended for the whole world as you claim. They were spoken to believers, so they are not relevant to the reprobate condemned sinners.

I wholeheartedly disagree with you second point, that the Lord Jesus Christ failed in His mission to save the whole world. I disagree, because I believe in God when He said He is almighty. That to me means He doesn't fail to achieve His goals. so I must agree with your view that God is not almighty but He is prone to failure like a fallen human.