Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

Ok we are to fear the one, Jesus who holds the power to life and death as well as love Jesus.

Ultimatly people will fall deeper into sin and i believe there is a cut of point.

I don't think anyone chooses to put themselves in hell I believe God does.

I believe people are blind in the reasoning that hell could ever happen to them.

But what I know is some things are detestable to the lord.

One example is to call a brother a racca, ( a fool), he gets really cross about that one.

But I guess people don't realise when Jesus says he'll he is also giving warning.

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brother without a cause shall be in danger of the. judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall. say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

When Jesus says he'll it's not a certainty

He says it's a danger 😊

Which means he warns people with hell first

So I believe like you do that people are not predestined to hell

Hopefully @Charlie_2024 will see it to

You may have lost track here. I was referring to your response to CS1 in which your responded like this:

MerSee, you are all over the place and do not seem interested in an honest discussion.

Like you?

Fear based perhaps? kinda seems like it

We love Him, because He first loved us. I John 4:19

God loved us first. If you know God, you would know and understand this. It is in scripture. You either believe it or you do not.

I think you kind of sound like you are hanging off the word 'elect' to save you instead of Jesus.

this is the argument that Paul gives in Romans 1.

The Gospel is indeed good news to every single person in this world who hears it. It declares the goodness of God's holy, righteous, just hatred of evil and eternal wrath against it as well as His perfectly good mercy, grace and love to those He justly saves from that evil in Christ Jesus.

Do you believe what Scripture says below about the way the Gospel goes forth throughout the world?

2Co 2:14 Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place.
2Co 2:15 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing.
2Co 2:16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. And who is sufficient for these things?

true, and the only ones who come to Him are those He has chosen to do so and draws unto Himself. Are the Scriptures below wrong?

Act 13:48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Joh 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

Psa 65:4a Blessed is the man You choose, And cause to approach You,

you missed a great portion of Scripture where Christ explains to Nicodemus who that this rebirth is spiritual and outside of the control of man.

Joh 3:8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Nicodemus was the head teacher of Israel but was blinded to this simple truth which the prophet Ezekiel spoke of below, as was the whole nation who were handed over, as prophesied to stumble over this simple truth as you currently also are.

Eze_36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
Eze_36:27 I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them.

Christ told His disciples that salvation was impossible for men but you seem to insist that Christ was wrong.

Mar 10:26 And they were greatly astonished, saying among themselves, "Who then can be saved?"
Mar 10:27 But Jesus looked at them and said, "With men it is impossible, but not with God; for with God all things are possible."

The repentance and faith which God justly commands from all people is only made possible by grace which grants it is a gift of God to His people.

as long as you still believe that you have the power to choose God you have not yet seen how wicked you are and are not yet truly humbled, but I pray that these exhortations will be used by the Holy Spirit to do so.

Those who received Christ did so because as the verse you quoted says, He gave them the right to do so and the following verse further confirms that it is of God's will and not mans.

Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

true assurance does not come from looking at a persons faith or works but from trusting in the person and work of Christ who grants this through His Holy Spirit to His children and confirms their salvation to them.

Rom 8:16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,

Those who are truly children of God, no longer live for themselves but by the grace of God are made willing to die daily to themselves and live, suffer and die for Him who lived, suffered, died and rose again for them.

If someone put a gun to your head and gave you three seconds to deny Christ or die. What would you do?

That is hardly the issue. It is not the power of the sinner but the power of the Gospel and the power of the Holy Spirit, both working on the unsaved, that brings them to salvation. Obviously you do not understand the Gospel, and have believed the Calvinistic nonsense.

the first man has room for boasting and can thank himself for going to the gym and doing all those wrist strength exercises that gave him such a firm grip on the rope whereas the second man has nothing in which to boast in at all and all of the glory goes to God alone and this is what the Scriptures confirm.

1Co 1:26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
1Co 1:27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
1Co 1:28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
1Co 1:29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.

Ultimately, your view comes down to whether man is indeed spiritually dead or not and whether God lied to Adam that he would die that day or not in Genesis 2:17.

proof of the Holy Spirit working in the heart of a person is that they no longer look to themselves for righteousness and are made to see how unworthy they are of God's gift.

How can a person who thinks that they have a free will and are therefore independent and autonomous from God truly expect to have their prayers for the salvation of other answered?

Now you've gone off on a tangent. When a person hears the true Gospel and that Christ died for his sins, he or she recognizes that they are sinners and need the Savior. The Holy Spirit convicts them while the Gospel proclaims that "there is none righteous, no not one".

So once again you have shown that you really do not understand the power of the Gospel and the power of the Holy Spirit in convicting and convincing people.

More misunderstanding someone who does not understand the Gospel. Who has been coaching you in this?

rather than simply making continuous spurious accusations of being wrong, use the Scriptures to do so for they are given for this purpose (2 Tim3:16-17).

It is the Holy Spirit who makes alive the word of God in the heart of spiritually dead sinners. Do you disagree with this statement?

why do you not even attempt to discuss the question but immediately fly into accusations?

Is it because it doesn't agree with your theology perhaps and you have no answers to give?