How do you get saved?
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This concerns the covenant between God and Israel concerning land.
Not eternal salvation..
once again, Read the story of Jonah and Nineveh. Nineveh where gentiles,..they did not get circumcised. yet they will be in heaven and judged the circumcised who rejected God.
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44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And [o]those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.
Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”
They received the spirit just like the circumcised did. Before they got Baptized.
Nice try
Not eternal salvation..
once again, Read the story of Jonah and Nineveh. Nineveh where gentiles,..they did not get circumcised. yet they will be in heaven and judged the circumcised who rejected God.
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44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And [o]those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.
Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?”
They received the spirit just like the circumcised did. Before they got Baptized.
Nice try
yet jesus said whoever recieved him is made a child of God (john 1)
Jesus said whoever believes will never perish, but live forever. then said whoever believes is not condemned, whoever does nto believe is condemned already (jn 3)
Jesus said ask, and he will give living water flowing to eternal life (john 4)
Jesus said whoever hears him and believes shall not come unto judgment, but has passed from death to life (john 5)
Jesus said whoever believes in him will never perish, will live forever. never hunger or thirst. and will be raised (john 6)
I can go on and on and on.
Your legalistic works based self righteous gospel will not stand
Jesus said whoever believes will never perish, but live forever. then said whoever believes is not condemned, whoever does nto believe is condemned already (jn 3)
Jesus said ask, and he will give living water flowing to eternal life (john 4)
Jesus said whoever hears him and believes shall not come unto judgment, but has passed from death to life (john 5)
Jesus said whoever believes in him will never perish, will live forever. never hunger or thirst. and will be raised (john 6)
I can go on and on and on.
Your legalistic works based self righteous gospel will not stand
The Bible directly links baptism to salvation: Mark 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.” John 3:5 “Jesus answered, 'I tell you the truth, unless a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God
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Thank you for sharing! This revelation is powerful. My prayer is others will see the truth that God has used you to point out. It is yet another reminder that believing, in and of itself, does not assure a person will receive what Jesus died to provide.
I am reminded of the words Jesus spoke to believers in Matthew 7:18-24; I never knew you. Immediately afterward, Jesus explained the need to lay a proper foundation. And baptism is stated as one of the foundational elements according to Hebrews 6:1-2
Scripture also reveals water baptism is to be administered in the name of Jesus. Something many reject. Consider the implication in regards to what Jesus said, "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:48) The implication is that those who refuse to believe and obey water baptism in His name are openly rejecting Jesus and His word.
Take note that the individuals in Matthew 7 professed prophesying, casting out devils and doing many wonderful works in Jesus' name, as do many believers in various denominations. But did they, like many today, reject the idea of being water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for remission of their sin.
"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:" Matthew 7:18-24
I am reminded of the words Jesus spoke to believers in Matthew 7:18-24; I never knew you. Immediately afterward, Jesus explained the need to lay a proper foundation. And baptism is stated as one of the foundational elements according to Hebrews 6:1-2
Scripture also reveals water baptism is to be administered in the name of Jesus. Something many reject. Consider the implication in regards to what Jesus said, "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." (John 12:48) The implication is that those who refuse to believe and obey water baptism in His name are openly rejecting Jesus and His word.
Take note that the individuals in Matthew 7 professed prophesying, casting out devils and doing many wonderful works in Jesus' name, as do many believers in various denominations. But did they, like many today, reject the idea of being water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for remission of their sin.
"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:" Matthew 7:18-24
Sorry but it is the obedience to the Gospel that saves.
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him
If it was simply the "preaching of the Gospel" then salvation would be universal.
Silly English composition tricks will not work.
There are no versions of the Bible that use verbiage to suggest such an understanding.
Conjunction:
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him
If it was simply the "preaching of the Gospel" then salvation would be universal.
Silly English composition tricks will not work.
There are no versions of the Bible that use verbiage to suggest such an understanding.
Conjunction:
There is one baptism. You believe it is by earthly water which has no inherent power to save.
I believe it is baptism by Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit of God.
All power and authority belong to Jesus. I'll stick with that baptism.
That does not believe I am against water baptism. I just don't believe it saves anyone.
People normally get baptized because they are already saved.
If not, the water does nothing for them but get them wet.
Ephesians 4:5-6
I believe it is baptism by Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit of God.
All power and authority belong to Jesus. I'll stick with that baptism.
That does not believe I am against water baptism. I just don't believe it saves anyone.
People normally get baptized because they are already saved.
If not, the water does nothing for them but get them wet.
Ephesians 4:5-6
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Jesus washed us from our sins in His own blood.
Jesus suffered to sanctify the people by His own blood.
John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.
Jesus suffered to sanctify the people by His own blood.
John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.
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(II) The term báptisma is a technical NT term. It begins with John's baptism in or with water (Mt 3:7; 21:25; Mk 1:4; 11:30; Lk 3:3; 7:29; 20:4; Ac 1:22; 10:37; 13:24; 18:25; 19:3,4). In all these instances, this baptism is called the baptism of John or the baptism of repentance. This was a distinct baptism associated with John, the forerunner of Jesus Christ (Ac 19:4). It was known as "baptism of repentance" relating it to repentance. It was also known as John's baptism (Lk 7:29).
It should not be taken as the same as the baptism of Jesus or the baptism in the name of Jesus (Ac 19:5) or the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Mt 28:19). It is said in Ac 18:25 that Apollos knew only the baptism of John.
When the believers at Ephesus, including Apollos, were found to have been baptized only unto John's baptism (Ac 19:3), they were not told by Paul that such was sufficient nor that it was identical with the baptism "in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Ac 19:5). It was then that they were truly baptized into the body of Christ according to 1Co 12:13. Almost concurrently Paul placed his hands upon these disciples of John just baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with languages or tongues and prophesied.
This was the unique demonstration of the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and this was the third time that it occurred confirming that Jews first were baptized with the Holy Spirit and became members of the body of Christ.
In Ac 11:15,16 Peter speaks to Cornelius and the other Gentiles of Caesarea telling them that as the Jews had the Holy Spirit come upon them at first and they spoke with languages (tongues) unknown to them according to Ac 10:44-46, so the same Holy Spirit came also upon the Gentile believers. As the Jews in Ac 2 spoke with other languages or dialects according to Ac 2:4,6,8,11, so the Gentiles, too, would do the same, which they did (Ac 10:46).
It should not be taken as the same as the baptism of Jesus or the baptism in the name of Jesus (Ac 19:5) or the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Mt 28:19). It is said in Ac 18:25 that Apollos knew only the baptism of John.
When the believers at Ephesus, including Apollos, were found to have been baptized only unto John's baptism (Ac 19:3), they were not told by Paul that such was sufficient nor that it was identical with the baptism "in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Ac 19:5). It was then that they were truly baptized into the body of Christ according to 1Co 12:13. Almost concurrently Paul placed his hands upon these disciples of John just baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with languages or tongues and prophesied.
This was the unique demonstration of the baptism with the Holy Spirit, and this was the third time that it occurred confirming that Jews first were baptized with the Holy Spirit and became members of the body of Christ.
In Ac 11:15,16 Peter speaks to Cornelius and the other Gentiles of Caesarea telling them that as the Jews had the Holy Spirit come upon them at first and they spoke with languages (tongues) unknown to them according to Ac 10:44-46, so the same Holy Spirit came also upon the Gentile believers. As the Jews in Ac 2 spoke with other languages or dialects according to Ac 2:4,6,8,11, so the Gentiles, too, would do the same, which they did (Ac 10:46).
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So ,you say someone has to repent Then they must go out and find someone to give them a bath in water and wash them.
Dont you believe what Jesus said,?
That he must wash someone before they can take part with him?
John 13;8
“No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.” Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”
Or you believe any person can wash you .Even Adolf Hitler can baptise you in Jesus name .Correct?
If Adolf Hitler were to wash someone in Jesus name ,then they will be saved.Correct?
Dont you believe what Jesus said,?
That he must wash someone before they can take part with him?
John 13;8
“No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.” Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”
Or you believe any person can wash you .Even Adolf Hitler can baptise you in Jesus name .Correct?
If Adolf Hitler were to wash someone in Jesus name ,then they will be saved.Correct?
Mathew 7
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
I bet these people were all water baptised.Notice Jesus never knew them. They never received the holy Ghost but they believe they do wonderful works in Jesus name.I bet they Baptised millions of people telling them your saved by the water,your saved.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
I bet these people were all water baptised.Notice Jesus never knew them. They never received the holy Ghost but they believe they do wonderful works in Jesus name.I bet they Baptised millions of people telling them your saved by the water,your saved.