Loss of salvation???

Figuratively for lost, perished, given up as dead, e.g., the prodigal son (Lk 15:24,32). Equal to apolōlṓs from apóllumi (622), to perish, lose.

Also, wouldn’t that dispute the Hebrews verses many like to quote. They say that once lost that they can never return.

"a bad heart"???

You read the story of the prodigal son and you come away with he had a "bad heart"?

The Father called the son dead and lost not with a bad heart?

The Father never described the prodigal son like his older brother.

What part of the verbiage in the story did you get "a bad heart"?

I suspect you simply want the scriptures to say this.

did you read the verses i mentioned? if you are a born again Christian, how ever will you know if you are saved. you may turn into an apostate. how will you know if you are going to turn into an apostate? what's the sense in becoming born again if you never know your saved? study & learn those verses i mentioned & hopefully you'll get it. blessings to you always.

lamar, look at it this way: if everyone believed what you believe in about losing your salvation because of turning into an apostate, how would anyone know if they are saved? that doesn't make sense. the Holy Spirit authored the Bible & God made sure their is a way for us to KNOW TOTALLY that we are saved. once saved always saved is what God established. also, if not OSAS, how would anyone know if they're saved? how many times do you have to get saved & when will you know you're saved?

Are you talking about individual personal claims of salvation? Yes or No?

i'm talking about just what we started on: salvation & once saved always saved! you said earlier you can lose your salvation by becoming an apostate. if that's true, the person was never saved in the 1st place.

lamar, look at it this way: if everyone believed what you believe in about losing your salvation because of turning into an apostate, how would anyone know if they are saved? that doesn't make sense. the Holy Spirit authored the Bible & God made sure their is a way for us to KNOW TOTALLY that we are saved. once saved always saved is what God established. also, if not OSAS, how would anyone know if they're saved? how many times do you have to get saved & when will you know you're saved?

Did you read the parable of the unforgiving servant? The servant lost his forgiveness.

The person never had it or saw it as good for them to be given it, Unbelief. Is what began the fallen race of people to begin with, the first Adam
Then the second Adam (Jesus Christ) to return to belief to God. Father knows best, and I am in process learning truth over error, as all are here on earth also in process. Some believing and some not yet
There is a final choice to be made and that will be done consciously, as then there can be no excuse for anyone to use to say, Hey God I did not know.
All know from within themselves. What is good and bad, I personally choose God the only one good, have a blessed day

i'm talking about just what we started on: salvation & once saved always saved! you said earlier you can lose your salvation by becoming an apostate. if that's true, the person was never saved in the 1st place.

Are you talking about individual personal claims of salvation? Yes or No?

Was the servant truly forgiven of his debt by the master? Yes.
Did the servant lose his forgiveness later? Yes.

These questions are simple to answer.

This is the purpose of the parable. Why are you tap dancing around this simple truth?

And the parable is about forgiveness, not salvation. If you are saved, you are in Christ where all forgiveness is to be found and cannot be revoked or lost. One's failure to utilize their position whether through ignorance or willful stupidity does not mean God has removed salvation from them so that they are once again dead.

If the prodigal son had not come to his senses, he would have stayed lost and stayed dead.
Figuratively or not.

The parable ends with the loss of forgiveness.

the Enemy, evil, not the people here replying, the evil of this world
Uses
Doubt, fear, anger, to get to us the people in belief to not see clearly, evil especially goes after those that see they are born again by God and only give God all the credit as Jesus did during his entire earth walk.100% dependent on Father.
You see, all anyone needs is just a modicum of doubt, to not be confident.
As said by God through Isaiah Chapter 7:1-9 They were told what God was going to do, and Were told if they doubt, then they will not be established. Amazing, how deep, high and wide does that go?
I have no doubt God will and does carry on God's done work through all the that believe God. God puts up with us all, even though not one of us is perfect ever of the self, ever. Anyone stop 100% sin in them?? Anyone??
God by son made us as perfect, as if I, you or no one else ever sinned Col 1:21-23
Amazing. And that continues in you, you, you and me too. That is amazing grace that is from God as sufficient from God to us the children to praise and worship God only, at least me.
All others, that you think you can lose salvation is not from God to you, it is you that first born flesh of you in doubt. Thinking, if you do this and or that, then you not in, Really????????????/ You kick you out in doubt, God does not do that, you do it, by not believing God (Phil 1:6)
If that is you, doubting then you do not know this loving God I know in mercy of Son for us to be new in
love and mercy to everyone as he did that on that cross for us all, to be first reconciled as forgiven. to see in thanksgiving and praise all sin first taken away, so we can be born new in God's Spirit and Truth, thank you.

Can a once truly saved believer backslide too much and lose the gift of salvation? If so do they need to repent and ask for forgiveness through Christ again? Thoughts are welcome and scripture too!

Can a once truly saved believer backslide too much and lose the gift of salvation? If so do they need to repent and ask for forgiveness through Christ again? Thoughts are welcome and scripture too!

Yes, the scriptures teach that a person can lose his salvation. As w


yes, definitely, you can lose your salvation. And here are the scriptures that prove it:
EXODUS 32:33-“The Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will BLOT HIM OUT OF MY BOOK.”
REVELATION 3:5- Whoever overcomes (sin), “ …I will not blot out his name from the book of life.”
Galations 5:4-“ …you are FALLEN FROM GRACE.”
2 JOHN 1:8-“ Look to yourself, that we do not LOSE those things we worked for.”
1 CORINTHUABS 10:12- “Let him who thinks he stands, take heed lest he FALL”
HEBREWS 6:4-6- For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have BECOME PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, and have tasted the good word of God…IF THEY FALL AWAY to renew them again to repentance…”
HEBREWS 10:35- “therefore do not CAST AWAY your confidence…so that after you have done the will of God, you may receive the promise.
Verse 38- “but IF anyone DRAWS BACK, my soul has no pleasure in him.”
HEBREWS 12:15- “…lest ANYONE FALL SHORT. Of the grace of God…and by this many become defiled.”
HEBREWS 2:1- Therefore we must give the earnest heed to the things we have heard, LEST WE DRIFT AWAY.”
HEBREWS 4:11- “Let us be diligent to enter that rest, lest SOMEONE FALL according to the same example of disobedience.”
Romans 11:22- “…consider the goodness and the severity of God. On those who fell, severity. But toward you goodness IF YOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS. Otherwise you also WILL BE CUT OFF!”
Read the example of Simon the sorcerer in Acts 8:9-24. He had become a Christian in verse 13. Then he sinned. Peter told him to REPENT and PRAY for forgiveness. The Bible is true and God does not show partiality. If that is what Simon needed to do , then that is what WE need to do when we sin after becoming a Christian. We can trust God’s word.

Non-existence.

This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. John 6:50


Said the dead.