Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

That's the problem with you posting snippets of verse and my responding to your snippet, without checking context of your snippet.
John 11:25-27

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that is believing in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever is living and is believing in me shall never die. Do you believe this?

Jesus is alluding to himself being the resurrection and life raising all the dead saints on the last day.
The souls believing in Jesus on that day, though his body were dead, will rise again and live physically.
And those alive on that day, will be changed in the twinkling of an eye without dying.

It's not about regeneration at all.

So, v.26 is saying "whosoever WILL be living [on the last day] and will be believing in me...?

Really? I see parallels in the passage.

V.25 He who now believes in me will live [physically] even though he dies [physically].
V. 26 and whoever [spiritually] lives [now] and believes in me will never [spiritually] die.

This makes a lot more sense since even the spiritually alive will physically die one day. Furthermore, on the last day, faith will be replaced by SIGHT! Faith and Hope all pass away beginning on the Last Day. The only thing that remains forever is love. Look up the biblical definition of Faith.

I am out for coffee right now and not able to look up verses to support any thoughts I might have on what the Bible says about death, but obviously there is more than one type of death spoken of, for there is physical death and there is what we call spiritual death, and there is also the first death which all experience, and the second death which is everlasting for those who suffer it (believers escape the second death). Jesus spoke of death as sleep and some revile thinking along those lines as if Jesus was a liar. Such people mock the idea of death being likened to sleep, and claim that sleep is a metaphor for wakefulness... which is pretty strange, if you ask me.

" Born once, die twice; born twice, die once."

Please excuse me for finding somewhat hilarious the fact that you pick and pick and pick at others for not sticking to exactly what the Bible says while you adamantly and repeatedly refused to admit how frequently you go beyond what the Bible actually explicitly states while making rationalizations for doing so.

I looked. There is no verse in the entire Bible where "never" and "glory" both occur.

What you call spiritual death, is never called spiritual death by scripture. I've presented my definitions with biblical support. I look forward to the other posters where who are using some other definition supporting their definitions from scripture.

Why would God give or share any of his eternal glory with any of his moral creatures when man (especially) was created for God's OWN glory -- and when the chief end of man is to live his entire life for the Glory of God? Seems to me that God would be quite zealous for his own glory since there is no one greater than him. And he would not only zealous for his own glory but JEALOUS as well. God is a Jealous God. This is why he was so angry at Israel for their idolatry. What do idol worshipers do, if not give glory to idols that God alone deserves? Is your understanding of scripture this shallow?

Then we have these to ponder:

Isa 42:8
8 "I am the LORD, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another,
Nor My praise to graven images.
NASB

And,

Isa 48:11
11 "For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act;
For how can My name be profaned?
And My glory I will not give to another.

And,

Ezek 38:23
23 "And I shall magnify Myself, sanctify Myself, and make Myself known in the sight of many nations; and they will know that I am the Lord."'
NASB

And,

Ps 138:2
2 I will bow down toward your holy temple
and will praise your name
for your love and your faithfulness,
for you have exalted above all things
your name and your word.
NIV

How is possible that a God whose own Name is exalted above ALL things would ever share his glory with his clay pots, with the sons of men who are but worms compared to him?

Yes, there is no text that says "never", but show me a text that says "maybe I will".

So, v.26 is saying "whosoever WILL be living [on the last day] and will be believing in me...?

Hello, Roger … What’s your understanding of Ephesians 1:13-14?
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

Why would God give or share any of his eternal glory with any of his moral creatures when man (especially) was created for God's OWN glory -- and when the chief end of man is to live his entire life for the Glory of God? Seems to me that God would be quite zealous for his own glory since there is no one greater than him. And he would not only zealous for his own glory but JEALOUS as well. God is a Jealous God. This is why he was so angry at Israel for their idolatry. What do idol worshipers do, if not give glory to idols that God alone deserves? Is your understanding of scripture this shallow?

Then we have these to ponder:

Isa 42:8
8 "I am the LORD, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another,
Nor My praise to graven images.
NASB

And,

Isa 48:11
11 "For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act;
For how can My name be profaned?
And My glory I will not give to another.

And,

Ezek 38:23
23 "And I shall magnify Myself, sanctify Myself, and make Myself known in the sight of many nations; and they will know that I am the Lord."'
NASB

And,

Ps 138:2
2 I will bow down toward your holy temple
and will praise your name
for your love and your faithfulness,
for you have exalted above all things
your name and your word.
NIV

How is possible that a God whose own Name is exalted above ALL things would ever share his glory with his clay pots, with the sons of men who are but worms compared to him?

Yes, there is no text that says "never", but show me a text that says "maybe I will".

Were it all not of Him, then none of it would/could none be to the praise of His glory.

What you call spiritual death, is never called spiritual death by scripture.

Hell hath no fury...

So, you are resorting to an argumnt from silence. Another logical fallacy.

Why would God give or share any of his eternal glory with any of his moral creatures when man (especially) was created for God's OWN glory -- and when the chief end of man is to live his entire life for the Glory of God? Seems to me that God would be quite zealous for his own glory since there is no one greater than him. And he would not only zealous for his own glory but JEALOUS as well. God is a Jealous God. This is why he was so angry at Israel for their idolatry. What do idol worshipers do, if not give glory to idols that God alone deserves? Is your understanding of scripture this shallow?

Then we have these to ponder:

Isa 42:8
8 "I am the LORD, that is My name;
I will not give My glory to another,
Nor My praise to graven images.
NASB

And,

Isa 48:11
11 "For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act;
For how can My name be profaned?
And My glory I will not give to another.

And,

Ezek 38:23
23 "And I shall magnify Myself, sanctify Myself, and make Myself known in the sight of many nations; and they will know that I am the Lord."'
NASB

And,

Ps 138:2
2 I will bow down toward your holy temple
and will praise your name
for your love and your faithfulness,
for you have exalted above all things
your name and your word.
NIV

How is possible that a God whose own Name is exalted above ALL things would ever share his glory with his clay pots, with the sons of men who are but worms compared to him?

Yes, there is no text that says "never", but show me a text that says "maybe I will".

I know... that is why I said, "what we call spiritual death." Your nit picking knows no bounds. Nor do your denials.


Exactly why I have you on ignore. Your pretenses and avoidance and false accusations never end.

A reminder that you specifically asked me to show you where you went beyond what the text explicitly states.

Your dishonesty in this regard compounds with every denial from you.


You do it a lot. Cue another denial from you...

Accusation alluding to alleged crimes that are not forensically proven are water off a duck's back. If you have a genuine complaint, you should be able to document it, and not just allege crimes without evidence.

Argumentum ad hominem is the resort of those who can't rally a cogent argument to defend their claims.