Saul of Tarsus was not saved on the road to Damascus.

I do not have the time to deal with angry people like yourself. You have been placed on Ignore. I wish you the greatest of Blessings, the Blessing of a Circumcised heart. Good luck.

Do you honestly find two people who call themselves Christians, who are struggling with each other to be funny?

oh thanks....it's a Shiba and a fox. not my work, but I like it well enough

it's 3 now, isn't it?

You are the latest to be placed on Ignore.

Now, see what you've done @Niki7 ? You've gone and offended him....

Of course, at this rate, pretty soon he won't have anyone to talk to.... we'll all be on "ignore".....

sad little man....

oh.... and even if we don't agree on some things, you are still in good company on this ignore list...

Now it’s 4.
I’m lying low.

Google dads army and look for sketch “your name shall also go on the list”
One of the funniest ever

You have received your wish.

sounds like a free for all

gotta get yr Calvinism right yah know.

I never wished for anything

I am by no means "angry" but you certainly seem rather "woke".

When a person cannot discuss something on its merits they choose to hit "ignore".

Snowflakes exist everywhere....

Apart from countries where it never snows.

Now don’t go “quibbling” about how we believe there is power in the water. You know we don’t believe that. The water is not the “power” that saves us it’s the AGENT used in our salvation. Just like the water of the Jordan River did not have “power” to cure leprosy when Naaman was “saved” in 2 Kings 5. No one that I have ever heard believes the power was in the water. That’s just a quibble used because they don’t have a better answer to Peter.

Maybe add a little Borax

The PURPOSE of the Holy Spirit was NOT TO SAVE them. Acts 10:45 says that when the Holy Spirit was poured out on Cornelius and his house, that the Jews were ASTONISHED because the Holy Spirit was given to GENTILES! Nowhere do the scriptures say that the Holy Spirit SAVED anyone. It was a “SIGN” that the gospel was also for gentiles as well as Jews. Chapter 11:18 proves it. When the Jews heard about the Holy Spirit falling on the gentiles they said, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.” It was necessary for the Jews to believe . Cornelius and his house were commanded to be (water) baptized for salvation. They already believed. Thus, just like all of the other converts in Acts, they believed and were baptized just like Jesus said in Mark 16:16

We have more PROOF in Acts 8:15 the Samaritans had been baptized in the name of Jesus, but had not received the Holy Spirit so the apostles LAID THEIR HANDS ON THEM and they received the Holy Spirit. In this scripture, the believers did not get the Spirit until AFTER their baptism in water. They did not get the Spirit in the same way that Cornelius got it. With Cornelius it was MIRACULOUS! With the Samaritans, it was by the apostles laying their hands on them.

Nowhere in the New Testament does it ever say that the Holy Spirit was given to Save people from their sins in order to make them a Christian.

I guess Peter anticipated there would be unbelievers who argue about it being just a “bath.” So he says, “NOT THE REMOVAL OF THE FILTH OF THE FLESH.” That’s good enough for me. How about you?

My sins are removed as far as the east is from the west by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ

if I sin, I ask for forgiveness.

since scripture is plain that all our righteousness is as filthy rags, nothing I can do adds to what Christ has already accomplished

On the cross, He said, 'It is finished' and bowed His head and died. But we know He rose from the dead and those who believe in Him will have eternal life. Now there is more to it than that, but that is how we begin our new life as a follower of Jesus.

I'm not arguing anything. People who believe in baptismal regeneration, as it seems you and several others here do, are the ones who deny salvation through Christ alone and must add to scripture. My flesh is not filthy, nor my soul or spirit.

I am redeemed by the blood of the Lamb and God sees me as righteous in His Son.


For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. II Corinthians 5:21

But if we should walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. I John 1:7

The AGENT in our salvation is the Holy Spirit. Water is just a symbol of that.