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Inquisitor

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Interesting. God's Word says He will destroy those who are destroying the Earth. Is that all of us then that He will destroy?
We all are responsible because we buy the products.
Drive the car.
Build houses.
Travel for holidays.
Buy shares in big destructive companies.

Guess, He will destroy us certainly looks that way.
 

Inquisitor

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They have been refuted by many.
Debunking the climate change hoax
https://principia-scientific.com/debunking-the-climate-change-hoax/
"The pretence that rising levels of atmospheric CO2 lead to dangerous global warming is debunked by studies and reconstructions of what happened in the recent and long-ago past, as described in this paper. These show that the increase in atmospheric CO2 follows the rise in global temperature rather than coming before it and causing it, i.e. the exact inverse of the establishment’s CO2 climate “control knob” pretence."
I will read it later but I know I will be wasting my time.

See how I don't have any preconceived ideas before checking the link.
 

Inquisitor

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They have been refuted by many.
Debunking the climate change hoax
https://principia-scientific.com/debunking-the-climate-change-hoax/
"The pretence that rising levels of atmospheric CO2 lead to dangerous global warming is debunked by studies and reconstructions of what happened in the recent and long-ago past, as described in this paper. These show that the increase in atmospheric CO2 follows the rise in global temperature rather than coming before it and causing it, i.e. the exact inverse of the establishment’s CO2 climate “control knob” pretence."
I got a few paragraphs into the article in the link.

The author named Mr M Strong as the founder of the IPCC in 1988.

Well that's incorrect, the World Meteorological Organization was one of
the founding bodies.

Mr Strong was a Canadian, an oil man, and a capitalist.
 

Cameron143

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I got a few paragraphs into the article in the link.

The author named Mr M Strong as the founder of the IPCC in 1988.

Well that's incorrect, the World Meteorological Organization was one of
the founding bodies.

Mr Strong was a Canadian, an oil man, and a capitalist.
Are you familiar with Joe Bastardi?
 

Omegatime

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#85
I would declare that we are all responsible for destroying the planet.

Our demand for wood devastated forests across the world.

Our demand for water drained underground reservoirs.

The demand for oil for cars generated enormous wealth in the oil industry and
political power too.

Countries with a higher standard of living need a large share of Earth's resources.

Fast food is devastating populations across the globe. Does anyone know where
the fast food culture originated?

Hmmm, far too many questions.
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It seems to me you are leaving the Lord out of the picture and blame consumers for the misery
 

Inquisitor

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Are you familiar with Joe Bastardi?
His prediction that by 2030 temperatures would return to the climate of the 1970's
is absolutely wrong.

Physicist Richard A. Muller states that Bastardi's explanation of CO2 is "completely wrong" and "even skeptics of global warming, if they know physics, would disagree with him."[13] ( wiki.Joe Bastardi )

Please note: that prediction was given in 2011.

2023 was the hottest global average temperature ever recorded.

2024 so far, has been warmer than 2023, Joe Bastardi's prediction
is looking very bad, very deceptive.

I wonder what he is saying now given the last ten years of global average temperatures?
 

Inquisitor

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It seems to me you are leaving the Lord out of the picture and blame consumers for the misery
Consumer demand generates powerful multinational companies.

The more demand for a product, say fast food, turns a pizza shop into a global phenomenon.

Demand for a toxic drink such as Coca Cola, once again, generates a global, powerhouse drink company.

God does not make you eat bad food, it's your own gluttony that is the cause.

Are you trying to say that bad health is God's will for us?
 

Omegatime

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#89
Consumer demand generates powerful multinational companies.

The more demand for a product, say fast food, turns a pizza shop into a global phenomenon.

Demand for a toxic drink such as Coca Cola, once again, generates a global, powerhouse drink company.

God does not make you eat bad food, it's your own gluttony that is the cause.

Are you trying to say that bad health is God's will for us?
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Colossians 2:16
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath.
 

Cameron143

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His prediction that by 2030 temperatures would return to the climate of the 1970's
is absolutely wrong.

Physicist Richard A. Muller states that Bastardi's explanation of CO2 is "completely wrong" and "even skeptics of global warming, if they know physics, would disagree with him."[13] ( wiki.Joe Bastardi )

Please note: that prediction was given in 2011.

2023 was the hottest global average temperature ever recorded.

2024 so far, has been warmer than 2023, Joe Bastardi's prediction
is looking very bad, very deceptive.

I wonder what he is saying now given the last ten years of global average temperatures?
He would say the temperatures are purposely taken in particularly hot places. If you trust woke global warming advocates I worry about your ability to discern what's really in view.
 

Inquisitor

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Colossians 2:16
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath.
You misunderstand the text you quoted.

Colossians 2, Paul is talking about religious judgement. It is a sin not to honor a new moon event.
It is a sin to break the Sabbath day. It is a sin to eat certain food types under the law.

Paul is not talking about sharp rebukes for eating unhealthy food.

Rather, Paul warns in other letters regarding gluttony, drunkenness, etc.

Are you saying that gluttony is a good thing?
 

Inquisitor

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He would say the temperatures are purposely taken in particularly hot places. If you trust woke global warming advocates I worry about your ability to discern what's really in view.
You may need to check out a state in the USA.

That state is called Alaska.

No hot places in that state to locate a weather station.

Do some research on climate change is Alaska.

I concentrate on hard science, observed temperatures.

I do not listen to anyone's opinions or predictions.

Satellites monitor global surface temperature right across the world.

Satellites don't pick and choose they just monitor every temp on the surface.

Mwhaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Just accept the hard data on climate change and it's not debatable.
 

Inquisitor

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He would say the temperatures are purposely taken in particularly hot places. If you trust woke global warming advocates I worry about your ability to discern what's really in view.
I do not believe that climate scientists and meteorologists are connected
to the woke culture.

They seem to be entirely separate entities.

You are further confusing the issue of climate change.

You seriously need to investigate Alaskan climate change.
 

Inquisitor

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Are you familiar with Joe Bastardi?
The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred in the past decade (2014-2023).

That is a fact, measured temperatures across the globe.

You need to spend some time on research.

Look at the data, the measurements, investigate climate change.

Don't accept anything your told just put in the effort.
 

Cameron143

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The 10 warmest years in the historical record have all occurred in the past decade (2014-2023).

That is a fact, measured temperatures across the globe.

You need to spend some time on research.

Look at the data, the measurements, investigate climate change.

Don't accept anything your told just put in the effort.
Already have. I think you should get better sources.
 

Inquisitor

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Already have. I think you should get better sources.
I used the NWS.

Are government weather organizations deceived?

If a hurricane is forecast is predicted to hit my city tomorrow, can I disregard
the National Weather service?

If the National Weather Service states that last 2023 was the hottest year
on record, is that a bad source?

I have no idea what alternative source your talking about?

The only source of temperature records is that Government agency.

I don't know of a private company measuring temperatures across a country.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I used the NWS.

Are government weather organizations deceived?

If a hurricane is forecast is predicted to hit my city tomorrow, can I disregard
the National Weather service?

If the National Weather Service states that last 2023 was the hottest year
on record, is that a bad source?

I have no idea what alternative source your talking about?

The only source of temperature records is that Government agency.

I don't know of a private company measuring temperatures across a country.
I've used the National Weather Service for years when I traveled a long distance to work. It was pretty good in the locations they had relay stations.

Here's a link you can bookmark .
It has all the data that the weathermen had when reporting on the news. They have access to meteorological stations around the world. It's not 100% accurate, but once you learn how to use it, it's better than the local forecasters, at least around me.

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