Dan 9:25 7 weeks & 62 weeks

Lets see

God called the temple that the jewish sinners where making a mockery of his fathers house.

And he also said when he returns, It will be his house (the house he rules in)

so you tell me..

Reconsider it. We are still under the law of Moses if thats the case.

IT was an eternal covenant as well, yet Hebrews 8 tells us its obsolete and as we know it passed away in AD70 with the destruction of the temple.

I do agree with you they were blinded in part. But why does the future salvation of jews have something to do with the 70 weeks of Daniel is what I am missing.

Where does he say when He returns its His house? I have read the Bible quite a bit, and ive never seen a single verse that states Jesus returns to some antichrist temple and calls it His fathers? Jesus said your house is left to you desolate. It was the Father's house, then it was their house, now its no one's house lol. Its done my friend, no physical temple will ever be considered the temple of God, Jesus is the true temple and those who are in Christ are a part of that living temple.

He comes at the end of the 70th week. to destroy the final gentile ruler (the antichrist)

I can go over the other prophecies if you would like

Thank you. From what I understand the only place that talks about the 70 weeks is Daniel 9 and nothing is said of the final gentile ruler, nothing is said of a gap between the 69th and 70th week. It seems to run in a straight line. The prince who destroyed the city would obviously be in AD70 no? Wasnt the sacrifices stopped when the temple was destroyed?

I just have no reason to put this in to the future do I?

Well, if I see a third temple built and the sacrifices resume, only to be stopped by some ruler, I know we are in some serious fulfillment here! So I will keep my eyes open and be open to this idea that it could be future as well

thank you for giving me the opportunity to share more.

Its actually in the text. Everything, including the gap.

Dan 9:
“Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times.

1. seven weeks plus 62 weeks = 69 weeks (69 periods of 7 years - or 480 years according to the Jewish calendar)
2. In this time, the only thing we are told will happen is that the street and the wall of Jerusalem will be built again, even in troublesome times, and this was true. they were rebuilt while Israel were slaves to gentile kings (Media Persia - then became Greece and we saw the first Abomination of desolation by Antiochus epiphanies, and finally, we had Rome up until Jesus day)
3. At the end of this 69 weeks. messiah the prince is introduced to Jerusalem as king. just as the prophet said he would

Zechariah 9:9
The Coming King
“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you; He is just and having salvation, Lowly and riding on a donkey, A colt, the foal of a donkey.

we call this palm Sunday now I believe.

so at this point 69 weeks are completed. so lets continue

26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

1. Immediately after the 69th week, messiah is killed (this happened the next weekend)
2. The next even occures almost 40 years late. the events of 70 AD when Titus and his armies leveled Jerusalem. and wiped out the city, so severe was this that the historian Josephus said those who saw it could not even tall a city was even there.
3. Even if you say Jesus died in the begining of the 70th week. The destruction of the city is long after the 70th week would have ended.
4. It says in the passage, the city will be left desolate for a period of time which is undetermined (actually it says they are determined, but only God knows)
5. This desolations and wars have continued until today, and we see it even today with the wars in the middle east over this very land. which remains desolate.

lets continue

27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”

1. Who is he, to find out we need to go back to vs 26, which says and the people of the PRINCE WHO IS TO COME. So he is a future prince, and the people is Rome, or what we call today Europe
2. He confirms some covenant for 1 week. (the 70th week begins at this time - the only issue is what covenant? It does not say, about the only thing we can assume is it maybe has something to do with the temple. as in the middle of this 7 year period he breaks his own covenant by entering the temple.
3. When he enters, he places the abomination which causes desolation. which is spoken of By Jesus in Matt 24. telling the people when you see this think stand in the holy place. RUN.
4. Finally, we see this desolation will continue for another period of time, which is said to be the sonsumation being poured out on the desolate. Jesus called this the great tribulation. so severe. he will put an end to it himself otherwise no flesh would survive. (which was impossible in Jesus day by the way)

so as we see. the gap is in the text. Granted, before messiah was killed and jerusalem destroyed no one could see the GAP. but that was on purpose. It is part of the hidden mystery, used to keep satan at Bay, because if Satan knew the truth, he would have stopped the crucifiction. which is why there are no many gaps in prophecy in the OT. which is opened up to us in the church.



I just gave you one,m of many reasons to put it in the future. Like I said, I can share more.



We all need to do this, Amen.. Many believe God will rapture the church before this happens. I am not too sure. I used to believe this, but now am not sure.. But that is why God tells us these things, so we can know the time is near. and use this to spread the word and bring others to christ. and to prepare ourselves for what may happen.

Although I must say that I believe both partial preterism and pre-trib rapture have one thing in common that I dislike. Which is the idea of two comings

This is a common mistake. A "coming" by definition means that the Lord Jesus Christ descends TO EARTH with all His saints and angels. But at the Resurrection/Rapture he comes "in the air" momentarily and then returns to Heaven with all His saints. Read 1 Thessalonians 4 again.

I did and it says those who are alive and remain to His........... coming.

Thank you. I will pray about this and do more research. Maybe I haven't been thorough enough in my eschatology and have come to sloppy conclusions. Perhaps my own ideas have hypnotized me to think that its all done we're just waiting for Jesus to come back any moment now, for the resurrection. That can happen, but as the Bible teaches lets cast down all imaginations and strongholds even when it comes to this subject. May God guide me to the correct view of this as well, and all the rest of you reading too!

Im a pan-tribulationist when it comes to the rapture, whatever pans out i'll take it. Although I must say that I believe both partial preterism and pre-trib rapture have one thing in common that I dislike. Which is the idea of two comings, in the pre-trib rapture Jesus comes first for the church then with the church, in partial preterism Jesus came once to destroy Jerusalem and will come again on the last day. I believe the system that has one singular coming is most likely to be correct, or otherwise we end up guessing which coming is being spoken of and I would contend that the people who received these letters imagined a singular second coming.

Very great point about the gap and keeping satan at bay. Very smart. I know of one example like this gap as well, when Jesus quoted the passage about acceptable year of the Lord and said this has now been fulfilled, He quoted the first part of the verse but the second part is yet to be fulfilled, the day of vengeance. Isn't that fascinating? One sentence divided in a way that there is atleast two thousand years in between. God works in the big picture.

Could you tell me the verse that mentions Jesus coming to "His house"? I would struggle with the idea of going back to the old covenant ways of animal sacrifices and levitical priesthoods, when we have a better eternal priesthood of the Melchizedek order.

I will pray about this and do more research.

Maybe I haven't been thorough enough in my eschatology and have come to sloppy conclusions.

Perhaps my own ideas have hypnotized me to think that its all done we're just waiting for Jesus to come back any moment now, for the resurrection.

In general - a good idea - but, be careful in/with your research - especially if you plan to read other people's opinions.


Most folks seem to simply believe what they are taught - without making a personal "deep dive" study into eschatology. And, because there is a tremendous amount of readily-available erroneous ideas to influence them, they can all-to-easily come to some sloppy conclusions.

My advice - stick to the simple straight-forward approach to scripture. Don't get carried away by overly-complex ideas - God did not make it that complicated.

Way too many people go out of their way to "twist" scripture instead of simply believing what it says in a straight-forward manner. They "invent" things - like gaps where there are none, for example. And, multiple comings of Christ - rather than the two comings the Bible tells us about - the First Coming of Christ and the Second Coming of Christ.


A few things are still yet to occur before Jesus "shows up on the scene" - the last one, we call the Two Witnesses.

From what I can tell, you are ahead of and more "on track" than most in this thread so far - many of them could certainly learn some things from you...

In other words, they have a greater need to learn from you than you have to learn from them.

Again - be careful...

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. KJV

“Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. NIV

Can anyone explain the two comings and the time?

Its done my friend, no physical temple will ever be considered the temple of God...

IMHO the translations you have here are poor

And what you have posted here is BIZARRE. John the Baptist?

Actually "the temple of God" is a generic term for the temple in Jerusalem regardless of whether it is being used prperly or whether it is being polluted and desecrated.

So while the Second Temple was being polluted during the earthly ministry of Christ, He still regarded it as the temple of God. And that is why He said this: And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. (John 2:16)

That is also why Paul -- when prophesied about a future temple which would be desecrated by the Antichrist -- he called it "the temple of God" -- Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. (2 Thess 2:4)

And that is also why the apostle John called the same future temple "the temple of God": And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. (Rev 11:1)