There WILL be a Rapture… Ready?

This part made me... smile.


FWIW, I've been saying for several years (in posts here at CC) that I believe we are [and have been] in "the seven good years" which precede "the 7 bad/famine years [i.e. the Trib]" (like in the example of Joseph's 7 good years before the 7-year famine, Gen41:14-28, esp. vv.26-27).

And this is based more on the biblical math (so to speak) rather than on what we view going on in the world around us.



Here are just a couple of those posts:

-- Post #7 - https://christianchat.com/threads/t...-left-until-the-year-6000.194147/post-4344407


-- Post #15 - https://christianchat.com/threads/d...l-witness-the-end-of-time.201780/post-4671517



So, as you can see (based on my previous posts, even), I believe it will take place much sooner than "18-years away from now." Yeah, MUCH sooner.

But I find when I speak with others about it, I find a common thread among them: most people I've ever discussed this with, in person (one on one), and over the near 50 years of talking with people about this, most feel comfortable with [their] idea of it being "15 years" from now. Consistently. It's a funny thing I've noticed.

Hi Lafftur,

So important to be ready, watching and eagerly waiting.

`...exhorting (encouraging and warning) one another and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. ` (Heb. 10: 25)

I believe the maturing of the Body of Christ is nearly there and the `catching away` to glory, is on the very near horizon.

The Rapture will happen when the total number of Gentiles (which God has always had in mind) comes into the Church, and it is complete. That is called "the fulness of the Gentiles". That may well coincide with the Feast of Trumpets (which has not been celebrated for ages). But the Jews do observe the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur).

After that God will resume His direct dealings with Israel and the Jews. But all Jews saved until then will also be in the Church (the Body of Christ). Recently a few Orthodox rabbis believed on Yeshua, and their families have persecuted them. But God also has a plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel on earth (which many Christians do not see).

How do you estimate 18 years? Not debating, just wondering how you came up with that number?


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Oh I see, you're working backwards from the Feast of Trumpets!

It's interesting! I'll file that away in my "watchman" memory. We'll see how it goes....

In the meantime there are other things I'm keeping track of.


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Many to this day have said, it will happen at this or that time or so many years or less. Amazing, this distraction of evil that comes from evil, to get us the people to not see, what is done for us in risen Son to us all, where eternal life is offered and have, it is a gift from God Father.
Who can tell the day time or years or even within years to come? Jesus said clearly, he did not know. only his Father knows, went on with Matthew 24, 25 about the end times
The end times I see began at the death, burial, and ultimately the resurrection of Jesus. Where new life begins in all that believe God and have a relationship with God, the Father of the risen Son Jesus. Accepting Jesus first took way sin, all the nasty nines and dirty dozen first? Why??????????????????????????????
To be able to get given new life in his risen Life given us from Father of Son by belief to this truth of Son as risen where the new life begins. And get led new, willingly by Father the Holy Spirit, seeing this daily, dying to self and people daily. To be able to be viewed as new by God for us and just love all over the few we only did and learned in first birth mom flesh and blood dead to God.
I hope the end is soon, the new earth to begin, with the new Heaven, Father to come down here with Son and Son hand the keys back over to Father. Wait I thought the two are one?
They are, yet two, Jesus was clear on this. As the way, the truth and new life to get given us, those that believe he is risen for us to be given this new life from Father in Spirit and truth, not of flesh and blood.
That is my personal end, even though I do not always act it out righteously, being in a body that is not yet redeemed. God done, has revealed this by Son for us on that cross that took way all sin, then and there for all to beleive god or not. the tis the only choice left, to beleive or not believe.
I cannot say when it will end and the new earth and heaven begins. I can say, believe God, trust and see by trust to God one obeys, and not ever of self, I see this now after had been under Law, that got me to see "I" can't do it perfect ever, so God did it for us all (1 John 2) God can and did that for me and all others to believe also and accept God's grace as sufficient for each person personally and then will willingly wait, no matter how long it might take, one grows up into maturity and does not condemn anyone ever again as God chose, not to condemn anyone through Son on that cross for us all to see and be new in Father and Son as Won (One)
So be one the Ten Virgins and be filled with Father, the Holy Spirit. Believe, receive and see resting in the done work for you too, just loving all in God's love as in 1 Cor 13:4-7 ask to get imputed with that love for you and all others too, thank you and then no worries over whenever the day will be. Then the next one will see by the love permeating through you too and believe also. then the end will finally happen, once all that will; be in willingly are in. Thanks
Today is the end of my flesh nature life, onto God's Spiritual. life for me, trusting God to reveal truth to us all as God knows when and where to do that for each one of us in belief too

Now this is just speculation. No one has even identified him as yet. He will appear on the scene suddenly.

Yep. Very close.
However, to attempt a count from creation day? Well.....that is just not going to work, because using Ussher's chronology is pretty much useless I'm afraid.

But counting from the Ascension via Hosea 5 & 6 ? Sure. Definitely. But with windage.

Pastor Chronister is adamant about a divine pattern of "6" and then the "7". To which I agree in principle. But how this typology functions in the real world with respect to creation I cannot yet understand.

Because of this.....

Archbishop Ussher: Flood of Noah ended 2348 BC
Any version of the Bible: Abraham born 2322 BC
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Difference 26 years

There were great kingdoms in the world at the time of Abraham. Far greater than even a couple of hundred years of would allow given that here were 8 people alive after the flood. But merely a 26 years gap is patently absurd. To gain perspective, recall that 70 souls entered Egypt, and it took 430 years to generate a couple of million people. This with very high birth rates.

Even a slightly later date for the birth of Abraham (strictly using the 1 Kings 1:6 figure of 480 years) still yields a date far too close to the supposed date of the flood calculated by Ussher. All that is gained is.......113 years. Not close to enough.

Using the Vorlage/LXX gains over a thousand years from the time of the flood to Abraham......so this may indeed be plausible. But doing so SUPPOSEDLY ruins the "6" and 7th" typology that everyone demands.

Not quite. Chronologer Martin Anstey modified it slightly and believed it was valid.

The problem is.....slightly isn't good enough. I have been thru this literally hundreds of times.
It's just not working with the Masoretic. Which I think has been altered by Rabbi Akiva about 100 AD.

It appears that most NT quotes of the OT are from older Vorlage LXX texts BTW.

Give me an extra say.....1000 years. And don't forget, we need to factor in the IMMENSE Babel catastrophe.
And then the huge Peleg event. Both of these occurring after the flood.

Just go and study Anstey's Chronology of the Old Testament.

From what I understand, the Babel disaster was.....utterly immense.
FYI, the book of Job (events occurring some time after Peleg.....six generations if I recall) has a very clear record of catastrophic events. Very VERY interesting.

this leads me to ask

1. how do you know the antichrist will turn 12 on christmas day? do you know him personally?
2. who is he?

I already have. Thanks.
Nothing there to sink my teeth into. Analysis ends up being close to Ussher's results.

This man will be a dazzling miracle worker. See 2 Thessalonians 2. There is no such person anywhere at this time. When he appears it will be a shock.

FF about 20 mins to get to the Job references.......

The AC will climb the political ladder for a while as he gathers steam and makes alliances.
His power will reach the zenith only AFTER he is indwelt by Satan mid-trib.
THEN the 10 kings give him their power and back his regime.
AFTER this merger of powers occurs the mark of the beast is enforced and persecution of Jews and believers begins in earnest.
And THEN God's wrath is fully unleashed upon the world, wrath that is meted out upon those WHO ARE NOW UNREDEEMABLE because they took the mark of the beast. God is judging these NOW DOOMED souls because they are killing EVERY JEW AND BELIVER. Jesus intervenes at the SC and delivers Israel and the believing gentile remnant.

All of this is made quite clear in the Scriptures.

Back in 2012 when everyone was freaking out over the Mayan calendar ending on December 25, 2012 and all the planets aligning…. Saying, it’s the end of the world…

Hollywood made a movie called 2012 with Nicholas Cage….

I asked the Lord what was happening and He answered me plainly…

“December 25, 2012 is not the end of the world but it’s like the end because the antichrist will be born.

The Mayan’s are like the Magi… they knew how to read the stars. The Magi knew my birth and the Mayan’s saw the birth of the antichrist and knew what it meant.”