Baptism should accompany confessions of faith

Salvation Army and Quakers do not baptize.

The more important question is which churches do not baptize so that we may have the remission of sins?

In other words, getting wet as a outward sign is not baptism but simply a man-made tradition.

Matthew 15:3
Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?

There's a lot of things the Salvation Army doesn't do.... not a very strong argument....


We don't baptize someone so that they will be a member of our congregation.... we baptize to fulfil scriptural commands, for forgiveness of sins, and so that the person can receive the indwelling Spirit... just as scripture says.
It's not so you can be a member of an earthly "club"....

in reverse, you can't be a church voting member w/o being baptized.

The sister church is convenient.
But we have also baptized in the river in the middle of winter and one 12 year old in a bathtub.
As long as the water is deep enough.

Some of the confusion may stem from Paul, who we have received most gospel revelation from. Apparently baptism was not a part of his ministry

John was baptizing for the remission of sins. (Mark 1:4 & Luke 3:3)
As we all should do.

John baptized Jesus to fulfill all righteousness. (Matthew 3:15)
As we all should do.

So your salvation is not based on faith but on the fact that a second person baptized you.

You can give a testimony at any time; but I can personally assure you that YES, there are churches that do baptisms WITHOUT the person doing a testimony, or speaking at all.

Nevertheless; a public testimony isn't really required. Belief is required.

He can! But that is not the main purpose. A testimony can be given at any time.

Not every "church body" is the church body and not every "baptism" is a baptism. If a "church body" is using baptism as a mere ritual social event, I speak against it in good conscience.

Once again, what happened in your bedroom on Wednesday night has no bearing on this issue. Regardless of what you think happened cannot change scripture, this is what you seem to not understand.

Eph. 2:8-9 does not negate the purpose of water baptism in scripture. Try again.

Baptism is not the gospel or part of it.

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Since Paul's message was based on the Word of God, it was most certainly part of his message.

Your question is simply a deflection. Paul's message was the same as the rest of the apostles.

Paul taught a lot about baptism he explains the entire process n his epistles Roman’s 6 , Colossians 2 it fits perfectly with bekieving he died for our sins

I think it's totally foolish not to get baptized. Not for theological reasons, but for conscience's sake. Why give the accuser an open door to create doubt about salvation? Get baptized and put the issue to rest forever. Then the accuser can never create doubt in your mind about the matter

It has meaning consider this and it’s conformity think of the core foundations of our faith

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

and that he was buried,

and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

now consider baptism , a man of God buries you beneath the water in Jesus name because you believe he died for your sins . Then you are raised up again from the water in Jesus name who rose again because you believe he rose again after he died for our sins which is the price for sin , death .

now listen to pauls doctine regarding those who were baptized into Jesus by his name

“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ( he died for our sins )

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: ( when we’re buried beneath the surface of the water in his name )

that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, ( buried beneath the surface in his name ) we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,( death ) but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”( resurrection or “new birth “ fresh start without your sin that was remitted in jesus name )
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:3-6, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It’s an action of faith we do it only because we heard and believe the gospel and that’s part of the doctrine . If god tells us to do something and we do it because we believe what he told us will happen , it’s not ritual it’s an act of faith because and only because we believe jesus died for our sins was buried and rose again .

Paul writes more about baptism and those who were baptized on his name but the above there shows how what we believe jesus does and rose for us . And what we then do based on that belief get baptized into his name for remission of sins

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( what we do )


and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”( what God gives us )
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I'm not exactly sure if we're on the same page. I've also been in congregations where a confession of faith was part of baptism; however, the correct order of things is first repentance and confession of Christ for forgiveness, then baptism following as soon as possible, not weeks, months or years later. Someone may come to believe in Christ for salvation and make a confession of faith, then make another confession months later in some public baptismal ceremony when it's convenient for others. This isn't the way.

In regards to your first post I think the issue may have arisen from the faith-only crowd that thinks any type of obedience is works of law, and therefore to be eschewed.

Why would you make a comment like this?

I agree! Matthew 28 Jesus gives the great commission and it includes baptism. As does Mark 16:16

I disagree. It absolutely is a part of it

Because there are people who think any act of obedience is a work of law