the Sabbath

Here the 4 questions I asked The Very Reverend ChatGPT.

Would a literal reading of the Bible conclude that the Gentiles were under the law of Moses?
Would a literal reading of the Bible support the idea that Gentiles were given the 10 commandments?
Are the gentiles judged apart from the law?
Would Paul, the apostle to the gentiles, tolerate circumcision or the law for gentiles?

ChatGPT said:

A literal reading of the Bible provides clear answers to these questions, as we consider the text of the New Testament in its original context, especially the writings of Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles. Let’s address each question systematically.
1. Were the Gentiles under the Law of Moses?
No, a literal reading of the Bible shows that the Gentiles were not placed under the Law of Moses. The Law of Moses was given specifically to Israel as part of the covenant at Mount Sinai (Exodus 19-20, Deuteronomy 5:1-3).
Paul consistently teaches that the Gentiles were not under the Law:

• Romans 2:14-15: "For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves."
• Ephesians 2:11-12: Paul reminds the Gentiles that they were once "aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise."

The Law of Moses was a unique covenant between God and Israel, and Gentiles were not obligated to keep its statutes unless they converted to Judaism (proselytism).
2. Were Gentiles given the Ten Commandments?
The Ten Commandments were a central part of the Law of Moses, given explicitly to Israel:

• Exodus 20:1-17 introduces the commandments with, "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage." This context applies directly to Israel.
• Deuteronomy 5:2-3 reaffirms that this covenant was made with Israel at Sinai.

While the moral principles reflected in the Ten Commandments (e.g., not stealing, not murdering) align with universal morality, Gentiles were not given the Ten Commandments as a covenant. Instead, Paul teaches that Gentiles are accountable to God through the moral law written on their hearts (Romans 2:14-15), rather than the Sinai covenant.
3. Are Gentiles judged apart from the Law?
Yes, Gentiles are judged apart from the Law of Moses. Paul emphasizes this in Romans 2:

• Romans 2:12: "For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law."
• Gentiles, who were "without the law," are judged based on their response to the moral law evident in creation and conscience (Romans 1:18-20, Romans 2:14-15).

Paul teaches that all humanity—both Jew and Gentile—is guilty before God, but the basis for judgment differs:

• Jews are judged by the written Law of Moses.
• Gentiles are judged by the internal moral law and their response to the revelation of God in nature.

4. Would Paul tolerate circumcision or the Law for Gentiles?
No, Paul strongly opposed imposing circumcision or the Law of Moses on Gentiles. This issue was central to his ministry and was addressed explicitly in his letters and at the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15).
Key points from Paul’s letters:

• Galatians 5:2-4: Paul warns Gentiles against circumcision: "Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing... You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law."
• 1 Corinthians 7:18-19: Paul states that "circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters," emphasizing faith and obedience rather than physical signs.
• Galatians 2:3-5: Paul refused to have Titus, a Gentile, circumcised, despite pressure from certain Jewish believers.

The Jerusalem Council (Acts 15):
This council definitively ruled that Gentile believers were not required to keep the Law of Moses or be circumcised. The apostles, including Paul, concluded that salvation is through grace, not adherence to the Law:

• Acts 15:10-11: "Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."

Gentiles were only asked to observe minimal requirements to foster unity with Jewish believers, such as abstaining from idolatry, blood, and sexual immorality (Acts 15:19-20).
Summary: A Literal Reading

1. Gentiles were not under the Law of Moses. The Law was given exclusively to Israel.
2. Gentiles were not given the Ten Commandments as part of a covenant but were accountable to a moral law written on their hearts.
3. Gentiles are judged apart from the Law of Moses, based on their conscience and response to God's general revelation.
4. Paul rejected circumcision and the Law for Gentiles, emphasizing salvation by grace through faith in Christ alone, not by works of the Law.

Paul’s mission was to proclaim freedom in Christ to the Gentiles, emphasizing faith over legalism and unity in the body of Christ without imposing Jewish laws on non-Jews.

I have warned about using AI this way, it is not intellligent and will say what it wants you to hear, soon when everybody is hooked because they are too lazy to think for themselves, they will ask you to pay for this service, this has already started.

The truth that your AI forgot is that Jesus sent the 12 to preach the gospel ( repentance from sin and the kingdom of heaven ) to all nations, it is called the great commission in your bible.

Mat 28:16 Meanwhile, the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain Jesus had designated.
Mat 28:17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him, but some doubted.
Mat 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
Mat 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Please use your head

Is the UCG similar to the worldwide church of God? (Armstrongism) I once had a customer on my mail route who attended the worldwide church of God, and he was always trying to give me pamphlets on his church and their beliefs. He boasted about not eating pork and he was absolutely obsessed with the sabbath day, and he even once told me that I needed to tell my employer that I cannot work on Saturday because it is the sabbath day and if I continue to work on Saturday then my salvation will be in jeopardy.

What is the United Church of God? | GotQuestions.org

Is the UCG similar to the worldwide church of God? (Armstrongism) I once had a customer on my mail route who attended the worldwide church of God, and he was always trying to give me pamphlets on his church and their beliefs. He boasted about not eating pork and he was absolutely obsessed with the sabbath day, and he even once told me that I needed to tell my employer that I cannot work on Saturday because it is the sabbath day and if I continue to work on Saturday then my salvation will be in jeopardy.

What is the United Church of God? | GotQuestions.org

Let’s all pump our chests like the pharisees and sababath keepers and let the world know how great we are. And how evil those people who do not keep the sabbath that way they keep it are headed to hell

The opposition to Jesus and Paul's teachings and the lengths reached here is astonishing,I admit.

One member claims those who keep the Sabbath lack faith. Which is their way of claiming ,aren't Christian.

Pathetic! And laughable on its face for obvious reasons unknown to them.

Others rely on what they sarcastically refer to as the reverend chatgpt

And really,who insists a day with God alone,no distractions by the world, just following his lead and serving his will alone for a day, is something to attack and oppose?

Believe it or not there are so called self identified Christians who extricate Judaism and Jews from their belief system entirely. Christian Identity is one of their labels.

We celebrate materialism once a year going into debt for a holiday called Christmas. We don't know that was Christs birthday.

If a Christian wants to eat clean,even according to Scripture,what's wrong with that?

is is not about that, it is about ignoring what the bible says repeatedly, is it not about understanding scripture it is about taking the easy way. Also do not put the pharisees in the same category as those today who follow the sabbath not the same at all.

Tell me what scripture says to not follow the sabbath, let’s examines this together if you will, I will do my best to clarify.

Nobody opposes the biblical teaching regarding the Sabbath... except you and your compatriots, who deny that the Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and reject the eternal rest He offers you.


That's your misinterpretation of what they did not say.


The only thing that's pathetic is your misrepresentation. It's not laughable though; dishonesty rarely is.


Nobody said they "rely" on ChatGPT. More misrepresentation... which by the way is lying.


Nobody but you, who continually misrepresents what others say.


And now you stoop to slander.


Speak for yourself.


It's only as wrong as your continual bleating and whining.

is is not about that, it is about ignoring what the bible says repeatedly, is it not about understanding scripture it is about taking the easy way. Also do not put the pharisees in the same category as those today who follow the sabbath not the same at all.

Tell me what scripture says to not follow the sabbath, lets examines this together if you will, I will do my best to clarify.

Is the UCG similar to the worldwide church of God? (Armstrongism) I once had a customer on my mail route who attended the worldwide church of God, and he was always trying to give me pamphlets on his church and their beliefs. He boasted about not eating pork and he was absolutely obsessed with the sabbath day, and he even once told me that I needed to tell my employer that I cannot work on Saturday because it is the sabbath day and if I continue to work on Saturday then my salvation will be in jeopardy.

What is the United Church of God? | GotQuestions.org

Great post.


There are those who are here as enemies of Scripture. You'll never reach them. Then again,you're not meant to. Only God can.

More chest pumping from the modern day pharisees Then deny they even are doing it

As far as I can tell it was a political dispute.

One big boss or twelve lesser bosses.

Here is what you stated.

"So what are the shadow of what is to come refer to? This is what I love about the bible, God always explains Himself if we allow....

Heb 9: 10 concerned only with foods and drinks, various [b]washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things [c]to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, [d]sanctifies for the [e]purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without [f]spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance."

There are a few important points that I will highlight in your quotation from Hebrews.

Heb 9: 10 concerned only with foods and drinks, various [b]washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things [c]to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. 13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, [d]sanctifies for the [e]purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without [f]spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

The ten commandments were fleshly decrees (ordinances) imposed until the time of reformation.
The 10 were the literal book of the law and only spoke of sin not life. No promise of eternity in the 10.

Christ and His Temple were not of this creation, the high priest, the law, the temple, was only the shadow reality.

He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant.

The 10 commandments were the decrees given at Mt Sinai and not before, the law.

They were fleshly decrees and powerless against mankind's fleshly nature.

A new covenant means exactly what it says.

A new covenant, an eternal covenant, under written by the eternal Spirit.

An eternal new covenant and unconditionally gifted to us with one primary commandment.

A new covenant that is not of the letter, not of written decrees, a covenant of eternal love.

God is love and that gift is eternal love that was poured into our hearts!

Nothing wrong with the ten commandments except they don't work.

I have warned about using AI this way, it is not intellligent and will say what it wants you to hear, soon when everybody is hooked because they are too lazy to think for themselves, they will ask you to pay for this service, this has already started.

The truth that your AI forgot is that Jesus sent the 12 to preach the gospel ( repentance from sin and the kingdom of heaven ) to all nations, it is called the great commission in your bible.

Mat 28:16 Meanwhile, the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain Jesus had designated.
Mat 28:17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him, but some doubted.
Mat 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me.
Mat 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

Please use your head

who are you replying to?

Is the UCG similar to the worldwide church of God? (Armstrongism) I once had a customer on my mail route who attended the worldwide church of God, and he was always trying to give me pamphlets on his church and their beliefs. He boasted about not eating pork and he was absolutely obsessed with the sabbath day, and he even once told me that I needed to tell my employer that I cannot work on Saturday because it is the sabbath day and if I continue to work on Saturday then my salvation will be in jeopardy.

What is the United Church of God? | GotQuestions.org

Yes, but believe if a Big word, not a small one.

It means to be-live Christ, not just to have the faith in Jesus, but have the faith of Jesus.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

What faith did Jesus have? Did He also keep the commandments of God?

He sure did, including the Sabbath

John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

How do we abide in Jesus?

1 John 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

So be- living in Jesus means to be His follower. His sheep His voice and follow Him, meaning, they are living by His teachings and following in His example. Jesus always lead by example and said- I am the way, follow Me.