Methodist Church here in USA.

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Blain

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I usually tell new Christians to stay clear from Methodist churches, just based on new age stuff that isn’t biblical; such as homosexual and female pastors.

My experience with a Pentecostal church is that, they are a little nutty and they play more worldly music and unfortunately had a female pastor who spoke in tongues without an interpreter.
what exactly do methodists teach? are they kind of like those churches that allow pretty much anything? like say a gay preacher or something?
 
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I usually tell new Christians to stay clear from Methodist churches, just based on new age stuff that isn’t biblical; such as homosexual and female pastors.

My experience with a Pentecostal church is that, they are a little nutty and they play more worldly music and unfortunately had a female pastor who spoke in tongues without an interpreter.
Re the Methodists, see my posts #30&33.
 

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I usually tell new Christians to stay clear from Methodist churches, just based on new age stuff that isn’t biblical; such as homosexual and female pastors.

My experience with a Pentecostal church is that, they are a little nutty and they play more worldly music and unfortunately had a female pastor who spoke in tongues without an interpreter.
Yeah all the churches are terrible nowadays. Its the great apostasy upon us. I cant think of a single church that hasnt back tracked on something or everything. Even the heretical churches like roman catholics dont uphold catholic doctrine anymore. Apostasy seems to affect truth AND falsehood. No one cares anymore.

So my advice to all is: Get away from these churches and find true believers outside of the babylon system.
 
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Yeah all the churches are terrible nowadays. Its the great apostasy upon us. I cant think of a single church that hasnt back tracked on something or everything. Even the heretical churches like roman catholics dont uphold catholic doctrine anymore. Apostasy seems to affect truth AND falsehood. No one cares anymore.

So my advice to all is: Get away from these churches and find true believers outside of the babylon system.
Well, some churches are no worse than CC.
 

rrcn

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Yeah all the churches are terrible nowadays. Its the great apostasy upon us. I cant think of a single church that hasnt back tracked on something or everything. Even the heretical churches like roman catholics dont uphold catholic doctrine anymore. Apostasy seems to affect truth AND falsehood. No one cares anymore.

So my advice to all is: Get away from these churches and find true believers outside of the babylon system.
Jesus did say he would build his church and the gates of hell would not prevail against. This verse was twisted by the Catholic Church when they made the pope the successor of Peter.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

As a quick review, Peter had just declared that he knew that Jesus was the Messiah:
Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

God still has his church on Earth today, it may not be the most popular, but it is here to prepare people for eternity.
Mat 16:18 KJV
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Isa 28:16 KJV
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner [stone], a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
1Co 3:11 KJV
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Eph 2:20 KJV
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
Eph 2:21 KJV
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

While a harlot represents a fallen church:
Rev 17:15 KJV
And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
Rev 19:2 KJV
For true and righteous [are] his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

And Babylon:
Rev 17:5 KJV
And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 18:2 KJV
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.


The church represented by a woman clothed in white appears in Revelation, she is our only hope:
Rev 12:1 KJV
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Rev 19:7 KJV
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
Rev 19:9 KJV
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Luk 18:8 KJV
I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
 

DeanM

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what exactly do methodists teach? are they kind of like those churches that allow pretty much anything? like say a gay preacher or something?
@Blain They have split. One side went woke and one stayed true to traditional Methodist teachings. So now there are two types of Methodist churches.
 

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If anyone watches the show Prophecy Watchers the newest episode deals with the apastasy of todays chruch. Fitting for this conversation.
 

Blain

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Blain

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google says this that their core beleifs are the Trinity (God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), the divinity and humanity of Jesus, salvation by grace through faith, and the importance of both personal and social holiness, emphasizing the importance of living out one's faith through action and service
so what is so bad about this denomination?
 
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so what do the traditional methodist teach then? are they like calvinists?
Again, my Meth church is part of the global Free Methodist Church denomination. The website says:

While Free Methodist beliefs fit into the church's historical, orthodox, and evangelical beliefs, a few things make us distinctive. These interrelated distinctions include The Way of Salvation, our Arminian theology, and some of our practices.

In essentials, we have agreement. [cf. kerygma]
In non-essentials, we have liberty. [cf. didache]

In all our beliefs, we show love. [cf. desire for unity]
 

DeanM

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well from I read they believe in free will and salvation occurs with an inner expereinece an assurance of salvation type thing, but aside from that it mainly just gives the history of the church not so much what their core beliefs are
Ive only been to a Methodist church one time. They do open communion and im pretty sure baby baptism other than that you will have to look elsewhere. All im sure of is the split and that is from my granddaughter. As far as what is bad about you will have to decide for yourself.
 

Blain

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Again, my Meth church is part of the global Free Methodist Church denomination. The website says:

While Free Methodist beliefs fit into the church's historical, orthodox, and evangelical beliefs, a few things make us distinctive. These interrelated distinctions include The Way of Salvation, our Arminian theology, and some of our practices.

In essentials, we have agreement. [cf. kerygma]
In non-essentials, we have liberty. [cf. didache]
In all our beliefs, we show love. [cf. desire for unity]
Seems legit to me maybe this would be a good church for me to visit once I can get out of this dang nursing home
I have a church that visits us but they are jehova witnesses and they don't believe Jesus was both God and man they don't have answer when I ask if Jesus was just another man how was he able to not sin when no other person has been able to do so? they literally said in reply well that is a good question and they didn't have an answer
 

Blain

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Ive only been to a Methodist church one time. They do open communion and im pretty sure baby baptism other than that you will have to look elsewhere. All im sure of is the split and that is from my granddaughter. As far as what is bad about you will have to decide for yourself.
baby baptism? that I don't agree with but everything else seems fine to me
 

Blain

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Yes the original Methodist church is a good church. When the granddaughter left is when the split occured and her physical church went far left.
and this left side of the church, do you know what makes them different from the traditional church?