Holy Reverence and the 'man Upstairs'?

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In his song entitled, “Unanswered Prayers,” country singer Garth Brooks refers
to God as “the Man upstairs.” Similar phrases referring to Almighty God include:
the Big Man, my Co-pilot, my Homeboy, my Golf-buddy, or simply JC. The user
may not intend it this way, but such references are highly disrespectful and
reveal a lack of understanding about Who and What our Great High God really is.

When the Apostle John encountered the Lord Jesus Christ, Who was instructing
him to write what would be revealed to him, he said, “I fell at His feet as dead”
(Revelation 1:17). Notice there was nothing casual in John’s response. Why? When
the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, it was with “a great voice, as of a trumpet” (v. 10). “His
eyes were as a flame of fire” (v. 14), and “His countenance was as the sun” (v. 16).

This brief picture, and the reaction of a mere man in the presence of God, is
consistent with the rest of Scripture. Isaiah says he saw “the Lord...high and
lifted up” with dynamic angelic hosts attending Him crying, “Holy, Holy, Holy,
is the Lord of Hosts” (Isaiah 6:1-3). Isaiah’s response was not casual or irreverent.
He said, “Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and
I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips” (v. 5).

People of old had a far greater reverence for the Lord. King David described
his great God by saying, “The Lord reigneth, He is clothed with Majesty; the
Lord is clothed with strength...Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from
everlasting” (Psalms 93:1-2). He continued, “God sitteth upon the throne of His
Holiness” as He reigns over all men (Psalms 47:8).

He’s not just a co-pilot or a buddy. Balak declared, “God is not a man, that
He should lie” (Numbers 23:19).

The Lord tells us this is because “My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither
are your ways My Ways...For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are
My Ways Higher Than your ways, and My Thoughts Than your thoughts”
(Isaiah 55:8-9).

In the context of all this information, the Lord Jesus said of the Father,
“Hallowed [meaning Holy or Sacred] be Thy Name” (Matthew 6:9).

It would be appropriate to lovingly share articles such as this with lost souls
who lack understanding of God’s Holiness and Magnificence. More importantly,
in humility, we believers need always to show great reverence to the Lord and
to His Name.
"
— Pastor John Fredericksen ( 'link' )

Further Holy Scripture For humility, respect, reverence, and understanding:
The Triune GodHead!
 
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In his song entitled, “Unanswered Prayers,” country singer Garth Brooks refers
to God as “the Man upstairs.” Similar phrases referring to Almighty God include:
the Big Man, my Co-pilot, my Homeboy, my Golf-buddy, or simply JC. The user
may not intend it this way, but such references are highly disrespectful and
reveal a lack of understanding about Who and What our Great High God really is.

When the Apostle John encountered the Lord Jesus Christ, Who was instructing
him to write what would be revealed to him, he said, “I fell at His feet as dead”
(Revelation 1:17). Notice there was nothing casual in John’s response. Why? When
the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, it was with “a great voice, as of a trumpet” (v. 10). “His
eyes were as a flame of fire” (v. 14), and “His countenance was as the sun” (v. 16).

This brief picture, and the reaction of a mere man in the presence of God, is
consistent with the rest of Scripture. Isaiah says he saw “the Lord...high and
lifted up” with dynamic angelic hosts attending Him crying, “Holy, Holy, Holy,
is the Lord of Hosts” (Isaiah 6:1-3). Isaiah’s response was not casual or irreverent.
He said, “Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and
I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips” (v. 5).

People of old had a far greater reverence for the Lord. King David described
his great God by saying, “The Lord reigneth, He is clothed with Majesty; the
Lord is clothed with strength...Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from
everlasting” (Psalms 93:1-2). He continued, “God sitteth upon the throne of His
Holiness” as He reigns over all men (Psalms 47:8).

He’s not just a co-pilot or a buddy. Balak declared, “God is not a man, that
He should lie” (Numbers 23:19).

The Lord tells us this is because “My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither
are your ways My Ways...For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are
My Ways Higher Than your ways, and My Thoughts Than your thoughts”
(Isaiah 55:8-9).

In the context of all this information, the Lord Jesus said of the Father,
“Hallowed [meaning Holy or Sacred] be Thy Name” (Matthew 6:9).

It would be appropriate to lovingly share articles such as this with lost souls
who lack understanding of God’s Holiness and Magnificence. More importantly,
in humility, we believers need always to show great reverence to the Lord and
to His Name.
"
— Pastor John Fredericksen ( 'link' )

Further Holy Scripture For humility, respect, reverence, and understanding:
The Triune GodHead!
I would add to your list of nicknames for God the mangled forms of His name such as "Gosh," "Golly" "Gwarsh" "GeeWhiz" "Jeez" and "Gee Whilikers". To me these are all egregiously disrespectful and are egregious violations of the third commandment.
 
Apr 24, 2017
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I would add to your list of nicknames for God the mangled forms of His name such as Gosh, Golly, Gwarsh, Jeez, Gee Whiz, etc. To me these are egregiously disrespectful and a direct violation of the third commandment.
 
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In his song entitled, “Unanswered Prayers,” country singer Garth Brooks refers
to God as “the Man upstairs.”
As annoying as Garth Brooks' howling is, there's nothing wrong with this rhetorically.

The actual sound that comes out of his mouth, and is broadcast to torture the ears of people everywhere- that's the real scandal.
 
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In his song entitled, “Unanswered Prayers,” country singer Garth Brooks refers
to God as “the Man upstairs.” Similar phrases referring to Almighty God include:
the Big Man, my Co-pilot, my Homeboy, my Golf-buddy, or simply JC. The user
may not intend it this way, but such references are highly disrespectful and
reveal a lack of understanding about Who and What our Great High God really is.

When the Apostle John encountered the Lord Jesus Christ, Who was instructing
him to write what would be revealed to him, he said, “I fell at His feet as dead”
(Revelation 1:17). Notice there was nothing casual in John’s response. Why? When
the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, it was with “a great voice, as of a trumpet” (v. 10). “His
eyes were as a flame of fire” (v. 14), and “His countenance was as the sun” (v. 16).

This brief picture, and the reaction of a mere man in the presence of God, is
consistent with the rest of Scripture. Isaiah says he saw “the Lord...high and
lifted up” with dynamic angelic hosts attending Him crying, “Holy, Holy, Holy,
is the Lord of Hosts” (Isaiah 6:1-3). Isaiah’s response was not casual or irreverent.
He said, “Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and
I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips” (v. 5).

People of old had a far greater reverence for the Lord. King David described
his great God by saying, “The Lord reigneth, He is clothed with Majesty; the
Lord is clothed with strength...Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from
everlasting” (Psalms 93:1-2). He continued, “God sitteth upon the throne of His
Holiness” as He reigns over all men (Psalms 47:8).

He’s not just a co-pilot or a buddy. Balak declared, “God is not a man, that
He should lie” (Numbers 23:19).

The Lord tells us this is because “My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither
are your ways My Ways...For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are
My Ways Higher Than your ways, and My Thoughts Than your thoughts”
(Isaiah 55:8-9).

In the context of all this information, the Lord Jesus said of the Father,
“Hallowed [meaning Holy or Sacred] be Thy Name” (Matthew 6:9).

It would be appropriate to lovingly share articles such as this with lost souls
who lack understanding of God’s Holiness and Magnificence. More importantly,
in humility, we believers need always to show great reverence to the Lord and
to His Name.
"
— Pastor John Fredericksen ( 'link' )

Further Holy Scripture For humility, respect, reverence, and understanding:
The Triune GodHead!
Although, me I learn from people like Garth Brooks and many others going through the fire
I seek gold nuggets from everything I hear, see and even do wrong as have and see to not anymore by trust to Father an dSon as won, not of myself as am learning that still, in humility not pride as if I got it
"Gold Nugget" Garth admitting to Garth's doing wrong in his Song. me taking it seriously
Magnum force, Clint Eastwood "A man has got to know his own limitations"
Bruce Almighty when bruce in the movie asks God (Morgan Freedman)
"How can I get anyone to love me without taking away anyone's free will?"
I see not possible to ever be truly loved if ever take away anyone's free will?

Seek Gold Nuggets and be safe between Father, Son and you, thank you
Anyone can believe as they want to believe, yet no one has to live like a refugee
Freedom is and was never meant to harm anyone ever, thanks and that is why Paul wrote to the Corinthian Church about misusing and harming others without care as they were doing at first
Then saw and heard the letter written snd truly repented to Gos after all and saw this live given us all, Paul reports this repentance in 2 Cor 7
 

Edify

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Jan 27, 2021
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Disrespecting God is definitely a bad thing. Taking advantage of His grace, acting as if it doesn't matter what you do, is also disrespecting God & is far worse.
 
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I just wonder why we criticize the world's references to God. Let us rather rejoice that they acknowledge Him at all, and pray for greater revelation leading to the knowledge of the truth (2 Timothy 2:25).
 
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I just wonder why we criticize the world's references to God. Let us rather rejoice that they acknowledge Him at all, and pray for greater revelation leading to the knowledge of the truth (2 Timothy 2:25).
But is somebody who talks about almighty God in derogatory terms like "The Man Upstairs" really acknowledging God?
 
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Disrespecting God is definitely a bad thing. Taking advantage of His grace, acting as if it doesn't matter what you do, is also disrespecting God & is far worse.
Being set free to choose to do right from within you, the person's soul is real, once one sees their freedom in risen Son (Father given) given them to abide in freely chosen to do right, sits there in the center of the Tornado, where it is calm. or in the middle of a Teeter Totter, where there is balance Father leading not me or anyone else either, and Son is One with Daddy
Think on the wise:
You try to do, how you doing in trying? Oh, not trying, you got it together then? Has pride entered? I see Pride and quilt God hates, and those caught up in pride and quilt stops people from getting, being established in truth of God's love and mercy of Son for us all first. Loving us all unconditionally, as people say one must be sinning purposely, being freed to sin. Paul stated this to the Corinthians about those claiming he sins, being freed to sin, is taking for granted this grace given, what a ploy from evil.
I see I am free to do wrong. I choose not to harm anyone. I trust God in risen Son to keep me safe, trusting Daddy knows best
seeing Cain in genesis when God talked to Cain and told Cain he could try all over again, Cain had the free choice to not sin and murder his brother Abel
But he chose to murder him. And God did not kill Cane
Who is righteous and who is not? God is righteous the only on earth good forever and always, I see to sit with Father and Son as Won thank you for us all t choose to believe God or not 100% or not
John 1:29 is done as said is in John 19:30. New life offered in the rise Son Hebrews 9:14-17

Therefore choose right now Life or death, thank you
 
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But is somebody who talks about almighty God in derogatory terms like "The Man Upstairs" really acknowledging God?
I don't think "the Man upstairs" is in the least derogatory. Jesus is a man. He ascended into heaven. What's derogatory about that? Does it encompass the fullness of His glory? No. Does "Our Father in heaven" encompass the fullness of His glory? No.

There's no need to pick nits, and there's no need to judge the world; that's God's job.
 
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I don't think "the Man upstairs" is in the least derogatory. Jesus is a man. He ascended into heaven. What's derogatory about that? Does it encompass the fullness of His glory? No. Does "Our Father in heaven" encompass the fullness of His glory? No.

There's no need to pick nits, and there's no need to judge the world; that's God's job.
I would agree that we cannot see the hearts of other people, and God can and does, and for this reason we should be careful in reaching conclusions based on what we are able to see or hear. However, calling God's dwelling-place "upstairs" implies that the speaker seems to be equating the difference between heaven and earth as similar to the difference between two floors of a house, and getting there as a matter just as simple as going up a flight of stairs. When I hear people talk about God as the man upstairs the other things they say make it very unlikely that they are referring to Jesus Christ's ascension. Far more likely they are using the phrase in the way I heard it used in a UK detective drama recently, when one character said to the vicar on coming out of a church service, "Put in a word for me with the Man Upstairs, will you, Vicar?" I should stress that I am not being judgmental or nitpicking in this.
 

Dino246

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I would agree that we cannot see the hearts of other people, and God can and does, and for this reason we should be careful in reaching conclusions based on what we are able to see or hear. However, calling God's dwelling-place "upstairs" implies that the speaker seems to be equating the difference between heaven and earth as similar to the difference between two floors of a house, and getting there as a matter just as simple as going up a flight of stairs. When I hear people talk about God as the man upstairs the other things they say make it very unlikely that they are referring to Jesus Christ's ascension. Far more likely they are using the phrase in the way I heard it used in a UK detective drama recently, when one character said to the vicar on coming out of a church service, "Put in a word for me with the Man Upstairs, will you, Vicar?" I should stress that I am not being judgmental or nitpicking in this.
Another perspective: I would generally suspect that a person using the phrase, “the man upstairs” either is a respectful unbeliever or is just using an alternative term for God. Granted, it’s not a biblical term, and people may misinterpret it, but I don’t think anyone is going to base their theology on it anyway.

By the way, although the song doesn’t mention Jesus, its message is completely consistent with an orthodox biblical view of God’s wisdom and sovereignty and with a healthy understanding of marital fidelity.
 
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Another perspective: I would generally suspect that a person using the phrase, “the man upstairs” either is a respectful unbeliever or is just using an alternative term for God. Granted, it’s not a biblical term, and people may misinterpret it, but I don’t think anyone is going to base their theology on it anyway.

By the way, although the song doesn’t mention Jesus, its message is completely consistent with an orthodox biblical view of God’s wisdom and sovereignty and with a healthy understanding of marital fidelity.
I think I would avoid it because it is so easily misunderstood, and especially because it is used by some oin a derogatory manner.
 
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"
In his song entitled, “Unanswered Prayers,” country singer Garth Brooks refers
to God as “the Man upstairs.” Similar phrases referring to Almighty God include:
the Big Man, my Co-pilot, my Homeboy, my Golf-buddy, or simply JC. The user
may not intend it this way, but such references are highly disrespectful and
reveal a lack of understanding about Who and What our Great High God really is.

When the Apostle John encountered the Lord Jesus Christ, Who was instructing
him to write what would be revealed to him, he said, “I fell at His feet as dead”
(Revelation 1:17). Notice there was nothing casual in John’s response. Why? When
the Lord Jesus Christ spoke, it was with “a great voice, as of a trumpet” (v. 10). “His
eyes were as a flame of fire” (v. 14), and “His countenance was as the sun” (v. 16).

This brief picture, and the reaction of a mere man in the presence of God, is
consistent with the rest of Scripture. Isaiah says he saw “the Lord...high and
lifted up” with dynamic angelic hosts attending Him crying, “Holy, Holy, Holy,
is the Lord of Hosts” (Isaiah 6:1-3). Isaiah’s response was not casual or irreverent.
He said, “Woe is me! For I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and
I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips” (v. 5).

People of old had a far greater reverence for the Lord. King David described
his great God by saying, “The Lord reigneth, He is clothed with Majesty; the
Lord is clothed with strength...Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from
everlasting” (Psalms 93:1-2). He continued, “God sitteth upon the throne of His
Holiness” as He reigns over all men (Psalms 47:8).

He’s not just a co-pilot or a buddy. Balak declared, “God is not a man, that
He should lie” (Numbers 23:19).

The Lord tells us this is because “My Thoughts are not your thoughts, neither
are your ways My Ways...For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are
My Ways Higher Than your ways, and My Thoughts Than your thoughts”
(Isaiah 55:8-9).

In the context of all this information, the Lord Jesus said of the Father,
“Hallowed [meaning Holy or Sacred] be Thy Name” (Matthew 6:9).

It would be appropriate to lovingly share articles such as this with lost souls
who lack understanding of God’s Holiness and Magnificence. More importantly,
in humility, we believers need always to show great reverence to the Lord and
to His Name.
"
— Pastor John Fredericksen ( 'link' )

Further Holy Scripture For humility, respect, reverence, and understanding:
The Triune GodHead!
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God,

and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:3-6‬ ‭

“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬




“And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power,

and coming in the clouds of heaven.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭14:62‬ ‭

“and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭7:56‬ ‭

“And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭5:4-

….For there is one God,

and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”( the lamb who’s slain and found to be worthy the son of man Jesus Christ our intercessor and advocate with God

The lamb slain yet alive with God in heaven

“Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:34‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“but this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭7:24-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:14-16‬ ‭

jesus is God , but in the course of time mankind needed one perfect man who was a real man but who withstood temptations and never sinned even when he was suffering and put to agonizing death . All had sinned and none were worthy but Jesus out lord eternal became the man we needed subjecting himself to Gods judgements even to death in order to redeem us who believe

jesus is certainly God but God later became a man becausemankind needed a perfect intercessor in order to redeem us from sin and death God cannot die nor can he be tempted but men are tempted and die

“For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:15‬ ‭

jesus humanity is also important just as his divinity is because he is our intercession and advocate that can save us if we come to God through him our high priest , the son of man , Jesus Christ