The Error is Baptism in Jesus name only for salvation

It’s in comment # 373.

"Only"?

In what Bible version are you reading from?

Did you even notice this? Do you even care?

Are you so far gone to think this is acceptable?

I personally and sincerely believe that water baptism is for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38) but I would never consider adding such a definitive as "only" into the meaning of the verse.

What is wrong with you and the rest of the faith alone regeneration theology pushers on this site?

You even got three people to agree with you.

No scriptures are safe with your warped sense of reasoning.

You are totally right. Some people will go to any heights to protect their theology.

Thanks for the research.

Dear Wansvic, The Bible never states that a lack of baptism automatically results in repudiation ; rather, it is unbelief that is consistently described as the basis for rejection. I don't understand why anyone would want to argue about being baptised. Jesus Christ is our example, and he became an example to all mankind to repent and be baptised. God can do anything. If a person dies without being baptised, they can still go to heaven if the Lord wills it.

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According to Mark 7 they had “washings” for many things—hands, cups, pitchers, copper vessels, and couches, just to name a few. I’m not sure how you think this has anything to do with my post. My quote was from Hebrew 9:16-17 and had to do with the death of Christ and when his new law came into effect. I only used it to show that the thief on the cross could not have been subject to Christ’s commandments for baptism because it was not yet in effect. Therefore, the thief was not required to be baptized by Jesus. That was all I was saying.

So, even if the old law had required the thief to be baptized, it would not have been the baptism of Jesus and therefore not an example for us. Acts 19 shows some disciples being RE-BAPTIZED because of receiving the wrong baptism. If the thief was baptized by some old Jewish law it would be the wrong baptism for anyone today. The thief is not an example for us today.

Romans 15 verse 4, Proverbs 4 verses 6, 14, 26 ~ Everything that was written in the past was written for our instruction, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures, we might have hope. Do not forsake wisdom, and she will preserve you; love her, and she will guard you. Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evildoers.

Yes Sir. Is it HIS word?

We are to use all of it.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

None of us will know it all, I sure don't.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Is that the only verse in his word?

Can sin enter Heaven?

How do we get rid of it?

What do you do with this verse?


JESUS speaking.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

I don't even know you and don't have the ability to know if you are reborn or not.

Why do you think you know me so well?

I do know that you are rude and a bully, and you don't follow HIS word!! If you believe what JESUS said in John 3:16 why not what he said in John 3:5?

I do know that you know HIS word but CAN'T SEE. You quoted scripture proving your stance wrong and don't even know it.

We are suppose to LOVE one and the other.

That is between you and him.

I also know if you are misleading people to believe something other than what is in his word, again that is between you and him.

Since I have asked twice and no reply, I am going to guess, you have never received the Holy Ghost like HIS disciples did. Shouldn't we want to be like them?

JESUS told HIS disciples NOT TO GO OUT WITHOUT IT!!!

He also said

Acts 1
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

If you don't have the Holy Ghost JESUS can't speak through you.

Luke 12:11-12
11 And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:

12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

Why would you say I'm like the Pharisees when it's you who will not obey him? They sure didn't and had him hung on the cross.

My first question to you was SHOW ME where ANYONE was baptized in JESUS titles. NO REPLY, I will put a check in the mail for whatever amount you ask if you can.

If you CAN'T YOUR WRONG do you have the ability to admit it? We are suppose to be humble.

I received the Holy Ghost way after being bapitzed in JESUS name, it changed my life.

Acts 10 they received it before since JESUS is the one who gives it he knows people heart so he does as he wishes.

There is no scripture backing up confessing belief in JESUS.

So you didn't have the Holy Spirit when you first became a Christian? How does that fit with:

“But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.” (Ro 8:9 NKJV)

And you say there is no scripture backing up confessing belief in Jesus. I would suggest that there is:

“that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” (Ro 10:9 NKJV)

Faith (that trusts) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (implied in genuine repentance) brings the remission of sins. (Acts 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39, 15:7-9; 16;31; 26:18)

Salvation by faith + obedience/works is a works based false gospel (Romans 4:5-6; 11:6; Ephesians 2:8,9) which renders Christ an insufficient Savior. (1 Corinthians 1:18-21) Faith in Jesus Christ alone is the substance of things hoped for.. (Hebrews 11:1) There is nothing hollow about the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is the object of our faith.

The command unto salvation to obey is choosing to believe the gospel/place faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. (Acts 15:7-9; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:24-26; 10:16) That is when the blood is applied.

The object of our faith in receiving salvation is Jesus Christ alone so for you to belittle faith in Jesus Christ alone is for you to belittle the object of our faith which is Jesus Christ and His death, burial and resurrection. In regard to blood on the door posts - By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, lest he who destroyed the firstborn should touch them. (Hebrews 11:28) It's through faith in his blood (Romans 3:25) and not faith in water and works.

The same thing we have to do in order to become saved. (Acts 10:43; 13:38-39; 16:31; Romans 1:16; Galatians 3:26 etc..) We become born again the moment we become saved.

Phillip did preach Jesus to the eunuch and also mentioned baptism, yet baptism is not a part of the gospel. (1 Corinthians 1:17; 15:1-4) The gospel is to be believed (Romans 1:16) and not worked for. In Acts 8:36-37, the eunuch asked what hindered him from being baptized and Phillip said if you believe with all your heart, you may. The eunuch answered, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Notice in John 20:31, we read - but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name. He was saved when he believed and water baptism followed.

In Acts 16:31, Paul said - “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved" and NOT believe and get baptized and you will be saved. Their baptism followed their belief and conversion, just as it did in Acts 10:43-47.

Absolutely false. You pervert the gospel by "adding" works to it. Jesus Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone and not based on the merits of our works. (Romans 3:24-28; 4:5-6) Christ's finished work of redemption is sufficient and complete to save believers. No supplements needed.

{QUOTE]Verse 34 is interesting. It says that “he rejoiced, HAVING BELIEVED IN GOD with all his house.” “Belief”, according to the Holy Spirit is MORE than just faith and trust.[/QUOTE] Belief involves faith and trust and works are not inherent in belief. Works are the fruit.

Lexicon
pisteuó: To believe, to have faith, to trust
Original Word: πιστεύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: pisteuó
Pronunciation: pis-tyoo'-o
Phonetic Spelling: (pist-yoo'-o)
Definition: To believe, to have faith, to trust
Meaning: I believe, have faith in, trust in; pass: I am entrusted with.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
believe, put in trust with.
From pistis; to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), i.e. Credit; by implication, to entrust (especially one's spiritual well-being to Christ) -- believe(-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.

Strong's Greek: 4100. πιστεύω (pisteuó) -- To believe, to have faith, to trust

You make the same error that Roman Catholics make. They also try to "shoehorn" works "into" salvation through faith, not works.

A Roman Catholic once shared this erroneous statement with me below:

We are saved by faith - as long as you properly define "Faith". Faith is not simply "believing". Faith includes: Being water baptized, eating His body and drinking His blood/partaking the Lord's Supper during Mass, works of mercy and charity, obeying his commandments etc..

Roman Catholics basically teach that we are saved by faith "infused" with works and then those works become meritorious towards receiving eternal life. Let the boasting begin! I also hear folks who attend the church of Christ say that we are saved by faith "conjoined" with works and ditto.

Who said I was a Christian without it?

John 3:5 JESUS says need to born of water and of spirit to enter.

Romans, Paul is speaking to one of the churchs he started.

Romans 10:9 is not the unsaved confessing!!

Paul is telling those who are saved to get out and CONFESS JESUS, iF you look after that he tells them how are people to hear without a preacher.

You tell me what does a person have to do to be reborn.

“In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.13.ESV

We are sealed in him when we believe. And in him we are cleansed by his blood.

“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.7.ESV

What 1 John 5:1 says and the way it says it makes it difficult if not impossible to work around. If what it says isn‘t true then what does that say for other verses. Are some of those untrue as well?

We know they aren’t:

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/2ti.3.16.ESV



What do I do with John 3:5? It’s simple really, the water doesn’t refer to water baptism. One common way to look at it is to understand that Jesus repeats what he meant in verse 6.

“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.6.ESV

Sometimes people look at this and ask “why would he say you have to be born in the flesh, everyone has been born in the flesh”? I don’t think it is strange to think Jesus was answering the question Nicodemus asked in verse 4.

“Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?””
‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭4‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.3.4.ESV

So, in John 3:5 Jesus is answering the question Nicodemus asked. In verse 6 he repeats his answer in a slightly different way to help him understand what he means.

Ephesians 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

As you can see, Ephesians Paul is speaking to those who have been reborn not the unsaved.

So when are we sealed and cleansed?

1 John 5:1 does not say anything about how to be reborn.

John 3:5 does mean water!! Since JESUS knows we come out of the water in our mothers' womb he knows that is born naturally and being baptized in JESUS name is born spiritually.

So tell me what do you do with these verses?

Is there any difference between John 3:5 and Acts 2:38??

Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Acts 22:16
King James Version
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

The first point was to show that baptisms were part of the old covenant.

The second point was to show what Hebrews says about regulations for the body. Did Jesus remove one set of regulations for the body and then install another regulation for the body? Or is the baptism that is important today immersion into Christ?

Water baptism is essential for salvation. The biblical record reveals obedience to the command is when sins are remitted. And the experience is made possible through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus. (Luke 3:3, Mark 1:1-5, Mark 16:15-16, Acts 2:38, 22:16)

Romans 6:3-6 indicates that the experience involves being buried with Jesus Himself. As such, we are to be baptized in the name of Jesus. He was crucified enabling the remittance of sin.