Loss of salvation???
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This is what I said.
If your asking me, it's our job to obey HIS WORD. We need to repent and get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of all of the sins we were born with and those we commited why we were alive.
After that our future all we need to do is repent and ask him to forgive them.
So to make it clear.
We need to repent and get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of all of the sins we were born with and those we commited why we were alive.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
AFTER WE GET RID of them, WE WILL STILL SIN!!!
How we get rid of them.
1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
I don't mean to be confusing, that explain it all good?
If not let me know.
If your asking me, it's our job to obey HIS WORD. We need to repent and get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of all of the sins we were born with and those we commited why we were alive.
After that our future all we need to do is repent and ask him to forgive them.
So to make it clear.
We need to repent and get baptized in JESUS name to get rid of all of the sins we were born with and those we commited why we were alive.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
AFTER WE GET RID of them, WE WILL STILL SIN!!!
How we get rid of them.
1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
I don't mean to be confusing, that explain it all good?
If not let me know.
What is that baptism?
Water?
Or, Holy Spirit?
Water?
We are to be saved by works now?
Now accept what the Word of God says...
Can you?
Water?
Or, Holy Spirit?
Water?
We are to be saved by works now?
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves;
it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Now accept what the Word of God says...
Can you?
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According to JESUS we need water and spirit.
Why do you say being baptized is a work?
Who is doing the work, a person who wants his sins remitted is accepting his word and obeying!!
Is the person baptizing someone working I would say yes as after we are reborn we are suppose to work for him.
Is JESUS doing the work? taking away our sins, I WOULD THINK HE WOULD BE HAPPY when WE OBEY HIM.
You ask me IF I ACCEPT HIS WORD??
Did you and get baptized in JESUS NAME to get rid of YOUR SINS???
I SURE DO ACCEPT HIS WORD ALL OF IT, but we need to keep it in context.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
As you can see Paul is speaking to those who have been reborn NOT THE UNSAVED.
We are saved by grace, look at what The Hebrew name for John is Yohanan (יוֹחָנָן), which can also be written as Yəhôḥānān (יְהוֹחָנָן). It means "God has been gracious" or "YHWH has been gracious".
GOD graciously gave us John to introduced baptism for remission of sins.
HE IS SO COOL.
Why do you say being baptized is a work?
Who is doing the work, a person who wants his sins remitted is accepting his word and obeying!!
Is the person baptizing someone working I would say yes as after we are reborn we are suppose to work for him.
Is JESUS doing the work? taking away our sins, I WOULD THINK HE WOULD BE HAPPY when WE OBEY HIM.
You ask me IF I ACCEPT HIS WORD??
Did you and get baptized in JESUS NAME to get rid of YOUR SINS???
I SURE DO ACCEPT HIS WORD ALL OF IT, but we need to keep it in context.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:
2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
As you can see Paul is speaking to those who have been reborn NOT THE UNSAVED.
We are saved by grace, look at what The Hebrew name for John is Yohanan (יוֹחָנָן), which can also be written as Yəhôḥānān (יְהוֹחָנָן). It means "God has been gracious" or "YHWH has been gracious".
GOD graciously gave us John to introduced baptism for remission of sins.
HE IS SO COOL.
Born again = TWO births.
First birth was what?
Your mother when giving birth?
She broke water before you were born.
When the amniotic sac ruptures during labor, known as "water breaking,"
it signals the beginning or impending onset of labor. This can happen naturally,
either during labor or shortly before it begins. It's a normal and healthy part of
late pregnancy and early labor.
Water = first birth.
First birth?
Born physically alive, but spiritually dead.
.........
First birth was what?
Your mother when giving birth?
She broke water before you were born.
When the amniotic sac ruptures during labor, known as "water breaking,"
it signals the beginning or impending onset of labor. This can happen naturally,
either during labor or shortly before it begins. It's a normal and healthy part of
late pregnancy and early labor.
Water = first birth.
First birth?
Born physically alive, but spiritually dead.
.........
Which was to prepare Israel for their King and the Kingdom He would have established at the time if they had not rejected Him as a nation Matthew 3:7. John's baptism was a baptism of repentance Acts 13:24 Acts 19:4, it was a preparatory baptism. Christ's baptism is a baptism of power Acts 1:8. To be baptized in the name of Christ, is to be baptized in power, for power and name are synonymous.
Acts 4:7
After making Peter and John stand in their midst, they began to inquire, “By what power or by what name did you do this?”
Acts 4:7
After making Peter and John stand in their midst, they began to inquire, “By what power or by what name did you do this?”
Are you living in the age of Israel?
Or, in the Church age?
We are not to live as the OT Jews did under the Law.
John the Baptist was Jewish, not Christian.
Those being water baptized were what?"
Jews, not Christians.
We are no longer to live that way.
The word "new" as found in 'new creation' has a specific meaning in the Greek.
The word 'new' means, something new that never existed before!
We need to learn these truths if we are ever to live correctly the life we have been called into.
Many Christians still walk as men! 1 Corinthians 3:3.
grace andf peace ....
Or, in the Church age?
We are not to live as the OT Jews did under the Law.
John the Baptist was Jewish, not Christian.
Those being water baptized were what?"
Jews, not Christians.
We are no longer to live that way.
So then if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.
The old things passed-away; behold, new things
have come-into-being.
2 Cor 5:17
The old things passed-away; behold, new things
have come-into-being.
2 Cor 5:17
The word "new" as found in 'new creation' has a specific meaning in the Greek.
The word 'new' means, something new that never existed before!
We need to learn these truths if we are ever to live correctly the life we have been called into.
Many Christians still walk as men! 1 Corinthians 3:3.
grace andf peace ....
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WHAT, WHAT????? Where does this stuff come from?
Being born is what gave us our sins!!!!!!!!
JESUS was speaking to Nicodemus WAS Nicodemus born naturaly??
If you was not born naturaly YOU WOULD NOT be able to READ HIS WORD.
Did you notice the word REBORN???
If you was not born naturaly YOU WOULD NOT be able to REBORN.
Look at what JESUS said in John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Do you see now HE spectates them.
Being born is what gave us our sins!!!!!!!!
JESUS was speaking to Nicodemus WAS Nicodemus born naturaly??
If you was not born naturaly YOU WOULD NOT be able to READ HIS WORD.
Did you notice the word REBORN???
If you was not born naturaly YOU WOULD NOT be able to REBORN.
Look at what JESUS said in John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Do you see now HE spectates them.
TWO DIFFERENT baptism one in water the other spirit.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
CAN'T ENTER WITHOUT BOTH!!!
Water gets rid of our sins, the Holy Ghost gives us power.
Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
According to Acts every case BOTH was done, they received the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues and was baptized in JESUS name. In different orders.
HOW DO YOU THINK WE GET RID OF OUR SINS???
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
CAN'T ENTER WITHOUT BOTH!!!
Water gets rid of our sins, the Holy Ghost gives us power.
Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
According to Acts every case BOTH was done, they received the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues and was baptized in JESUS name. In different orders.
HOW DO YOU THINK WE GET RID OF OUR SINS???
NT was for all, JESUS came for the Jews.
Gentiles were grafted in with the same rules in Acts 10.
Samaritans in Acts 8.
GOD is NOT a racist, he does not look at skin color, gender or where we are from.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
ALL NATIONS, not some.
Gentiles were grafted in with the same rules in Acts 10.
Samaritans in Acts 8.
GOD is NOT a racist, he does not look at skin color, gender or where we are from.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
ALL NATIONS, not some.
One baptism (water) was for Israel to prepare them for their Messiah, the other (Spirit) is for Christians under the New Covenant. We belong to the latter, one baptism Eph.4:5. Water baptism does nothing for our sin except symbolically. Only the Cross has a real and permanent effect upon our sin.
Acts 2:38-39 says to be baptized in the name of Christ, not water. They continued baptizing in water because that was the tradition established by John, but eventually Peter woke up to what Christ told them before He left in Acts 1:8. John the Baptist understood Jesus would baptize differently. Matt.3:11 and Luke 3:16
It took the baptism of Cornelius and his household for Peter to wake up and even then he didn't remember until he was recounting the incident to the others. Acts 11:16
Being born from above is regeneration, not baptism in the Spirit. No-one was baptized in the Spirit until Pentecost but all believers, from Adam until Pentecost were born again. No-one could have understood spiritual matters if they were not born of God for the carnal man is oblivious to spiritual things. 1Cor.2:14
John 3:5 was for Israel under the Law. They needed to undergo John's baptism to symbolize their repentance and they needed to be born from above. Nothing to do with the Baptism Christ would inaugurate.
Accepting the Gospel deals with our sin. We are forgiven in Christ but our sin nature remains which is why the Spirit also indwells us bodily to make our temple clean. As long as we are filled and led of the Spirit and do not grieve or quench the Spirit by following after our flesh, we remain at peace with God and our sin cannot have any power over us.
Our sins will not be "got rid of" as you put it until we put on the new body in the resurrection.
Acts 2:38-39 says to be baptized in the name of Christ, not water. They continued baptizing in water because that was the tradition established by John, but eventually Peter woke up to what Christ told them before He left in Acts 1:8. John the Baptist understood Jesus would baptize differently. Matt.3:11 and Luke 3:16
It took the baptism of Cornelius and his household for Peter to wake up and even then he didn't remember until he was recounting the incident to the others. Acts 11:16
Being born from above is regeneration, not baptism in the Spirit. No-one was baptized in the Spirit until Pentecost but all believers, from Adam until Pentecost were born again. No-one could have understood spiritual matters if they were not born of God for the carnal man is oblivious to spiritual things. 1Cor.2:14
John 3:5 was for Israel under the Law. They needed to undergo John's baptism to symbolize their repentance and they needed to be born from above. Nothing to do with the Baptism Christ would inaugurate.
Accepting the Gospel deals with our sin. We are forgiven in Christ but our sin nature remains which is why the Spirit also indwells us bodily to make our temple clean. As long as we are filled and led of the Spirit and do not grieve or quench the Spirit by following after our flesh, we remain at peace with God and our sin cannot have any power over us.
Our sins will not be "got rid of" as you put it until we put on the new body in the resurrection.
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“And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen;
and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:17-18
“I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, “
“I am he that liveth,”
“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
Matthew 1:23 KJV
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:21
“and was dead;”
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried,
“behold, I am alive for evermore, “
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
Mark 16:19
“and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”
Acts 3:20-21
“And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:10-11 KJV
“….., until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords;”
1 Timothy 6:14-15 KJV
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen;
and have the keys of hell and of death.”
Revelation 1:17-18
“I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, “
“I am he that liveth,”
“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
Matthew 1:23 KJV
“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”
Matthew 1:21
“and was dead;”
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried,
“behold, I am alive for evermore, “
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
Mark 16:19
“and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”
Acts 3:20-21
“And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”
Acts 1:10-11 KJV
“….., until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of Lords;”
1 Timothy 6:14-15 KJV
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”
Acts 4:12 KJV
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