You don’t yet seem to grasp that spiritual truth is reality and makes the world go around physically, so do not dismiss or disparage it.
Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.
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You don’t yet seem to grasp that spiritual truth is reality and makes the world go around physically, so do not dismiss or disparage it.
There is no indication in the scriptures that God placed the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden. It is unlikely that He would include a tree with enticing forbidden fruit in the presence of Adam and Eve, as this would create temptation, which is not aligned with His nature. Nor, would he put a stumbling block in their way causing them to fall. This notion aligns more closely with actions attributed to Satan.
When Jesus mentioned, “a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit,” he was using a metaphor rather than referring to a literal tree and its fruit. The emphasis is on the moral character of individuals; engaging with those who have moral integrity is beneficial, while it is wise to avoid those who lack such integrity.
How can a rational thinking person believe that literal trees have knowledge to do both good and evil? According to Jesus, wouldn’t Satan be considered a corrupt tree whose fruits are evil, and wouldn’t God forbid Adam from eating his fruits? It is high time we dispel the notion that trees have the cognizant abilities or mental skills to reason or problem-solve even though some people do talk to trees.
“Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.”
Genesis 2:8-9 NIV
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.”
John 1:1-3 NIV
““The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.”
Acts 17:24 NIV
Those look a lot like “indications” to me.
Unlikely? Based on what? He created a tree and told them not to eat of it. Don’t draw your conclusions and then subject Scripture to them.
He was being both literal and figurative.
You’re not totally off base here, but you’re not getting the whole point either.
You’re attributing something to the trees that Scripture doesn’t. The text doesn’t state that the tree could think, but the serpent said “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.””
Genesis 3:5 NIV
In that he spoke truth because that is what happened.
You are correct. God told Adam do not eat from the tree of of knowledge of good and evil. But when Eve came along, Adam said to Eve, do not eat the fruit from that tree and don’t even touch it. Adam added words on top of God‘s words. That’s why when Eve saw Satan sitting on the on a tree of knowledge of good and evil, he had an apple his hand. She saw that he did not die. Eve was only guilty of temptation. Adam was guilty of sin. The whole Bible is about words. What did Jesus say, it’s not what you put into the mouth that they filed you, but what comes out of it
Hi Patrick, when you respond to someone else’s post, make sure you put your comments after the closing quote or outside the quote box so others can distinguish your words from the quoted words.
Yeah, I’m not too tech savvy. I’ll try to figure it out.
I didn’t say that the trees are like that. You’re putting words in my mouth. Jesus says he is the tree of life.
We do not know what Adam said to Eve as Adam's words to Eve are not recorded in Scripture.
All we know is what God told Adam and what Eve told satan.
We cannot say with any certainty whether "Adam added words on top of God's words" or whether Eve added the words.
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No indication in the scriptures that God placed the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the garden? What of these verses:
(Gen 2:8-10) And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
I agree with your second paragraph. Jesus often used picture-language. He called Himself a door, a Shepherd, a vine, a light and bread. However, His use of those pictures doesn't mean that every time we read words like door, shepherd, vine, light and bread in the Bible, we have to interpret them as picture language.
Satan is referred to as many things, a snake/serpent, a dragon, etc. but never a tree. I don't believe that trees possess knowledge to do both good and evil. I agree with what Jamiesson, Fausset and Brown say in their commentary about the tree of knowledge of good and evil: "so called because it was a test of obedience by which our first parents were to be tried, whether they would be good or bad, obey God or break His commands."
Do you mean that in Genesis we read that Adam said to Eve, do not eat the fruit from that tree and don’t even touch it, and added words on top of God‘s words? If that is what you meant, please tell me where we are told that in Genesis. I can 't find it.
Good, because the truth that humanity sinned and died spiritually from the beginning is the point of the parable.