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All I read in Genesis is what God told Adam and what Eve told satan. I do not read anything about what Adam told Eve.
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Eve did not sin by eating of the tree.
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please provide chapter and verse which indicates ...
All I read in Genesis is what God told Adam and what Eve told satan. I do not read anything about what Adam told Eve.
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In Genesis 3:3. Yes, it was Eve that said that. But God said to Adam, not to eat of it in Genesis 2:16-18. So it’s obvious God didn’t tell Eve that. It was Adam they added them words to Eve. And then if you look at. Genesis.2:9 there was a tree of life and a tree of good and evil in the garden.
She was guilty of temptation. Adam was guilty of sin. Adam willingly ate the fruit. After he ate the fruit, he was going to take Eve to the tree of life, and eat the fruit. Then they would’ve been sinners forever. That is the sin.
we do not know what Adam told Eve. we do not know whether Adam added the words or whether Eve added the words.
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According to 1 Timothy 2:14, Eve was "in the transgression" [Greek = parabasis = overstepping, a stepping over the line]. Eve was aware of the "line" ... Eve told satan "God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it" but Eve was deceived by satan and she ate.
chapter and verse which indicates Adam "was going to take Eve to the tree of life, and eat the fruit".
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It is not a sin to be tempted ... if temptation was a sin, you would have to include the Lord Jesus Christ ...
Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
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Laws in Exodus
The laws in Exodus 12 applied to Jesus and the same laws were from the beginning after the death of the testator of the Old Testament. All the laws of the Torah were established in the beginning by the testator.
Leaven
In Matthew 13:35, Jesus said he would reveal a secret kept from the foundation of the world but tell it in a parable. Adam and Eve lead the first foundation, and the parable is about them. Jesus tells a story about a woman who hid leaven in someone’s meal. Consuming leaven was forbidden by law, and to do so would cause them to be cast out of the garden. Satan knew this. Why do you think Jesus told the story in a parable? It is incumbent upon you to understand the parable, it is called discernment, however not everyone will understand it. The scriptures contain secrets and mysteries, but the Bible does not reveal them readily.
33Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. (Matthew 13:33 KJV)
The law in Exodus and the parable of leaven ties in with 1 Timothy 2:15. The woman would be saved if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. Sobriety refers to the condition of being sober, or not under the influence of alcohol. Leaven is a yeast use in dough to make it rise and, it causes a beverage to ferment into alcohol. Eve said the serpent had beguiled her, tricked her into doing what? She hid leaven in Adam’s bread and drink causing God to cast them out of the garden based to the law. This is why the woman was in the transgression and not the man.
15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. (1 Timothy 2:15 KJV)
15Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel. (Exodus 12:15 KJV)
Baseless speculation rooted in a serious misunderstanding of the chronology of Scripture.
Jesus Christ was tempted in the wilderness. That did not make Him guilty of anything. Being tempted is not something one is guilty of, and does not deserve punishment. Eve ate the forbidden fruit too, so it was not just that she was tempted to sin; she did sin.
As for what Adam was going to do after eating the forbidden fruit, how do you know that he was going to take Eve to the tree of life, and eat the fruit?
Thank you for your reply, which I have read. The idea that Jesus referred in the parable to a woman hiding leaven in the dough to mean that Eve hid leaven in Adam's food and drink just doesn't make any sense. The parable is about what the kingdom of heaven is like:
(Mat 13:33 NKJV) Another parable He spoke to them: "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened."
Nothing at all about Eve preparing meals for Adam. (We don't even know that she did - we are just told that they ate the fruit from the trees of the Garden.) Genesis tells us what Adam's and Eve's sin was - eating the fruit from the one tree which God had forbidden.
You end be quoting Exodus 12:15, which in its context is specifically about not having leaven in the house during the Passover. For Adam and Eve, Passover was many years in the future.
Does anyone give thought about the prevailing narrative surrounding the garden of Eden? According to your narrative Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good or evil until the Lord introduced it to the world in the form of a fruit. You claimed it was God who planted the tree in the midst of the garden, and by doing so brought good and evil into the world. Had they not eaten the fruit the world would never have known evil neither would they know good. Because Adam and Eve ate the fruit they passed down knowledge of good and Evil through their offspring, however they did not introduce good and Evil into the world. Based on your narrative Satan had no part in sin entering the world.
So, let me get this straight because I am confused with your logic. Satan and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil who you claim was not Satan were in the garden, yet the tree was a greater threat to Adam and Eve salvation. They were warn to stay away from an evil tree, but was never warned to stay away from Satan! Moses never said that God put the tree in the midst of the garden, and we know God would never put a stumbling block before his children causing them to fall.
When Jesus said, “a tree is known by its fruit, a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit,” He used a tree as a metaphor to explain a person’s character. If Jesus use a tree as a metaphor for people could be that Moses would use a tree as a metaphor to represent a person also. Is it possible that person was Satan sense literal trees do no possess a knowledge of good and evil? You continue to convince yourself that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was a literal tree.
Genesis2:8-9. God put the trees in the garden of Eden.. Satan was allowed to do what he wants. On earth, Satan was just sitting in a tree to tempt Eve, so Adam could sin
What verse of Scripture tells us that? You have formed a pretext from some other information and you are attempting to subject plain Scripture to that pretext. .
That’s backwards.
I read the story of Adam and Eve with symbolism. Because we know Satan was the snake, that means there is symbolism attached and shouldn't be read like they ate a literal piece of food and thus, sin came into the world because Satan isn't a literal snake, he's a Cherub.
I think problems arise when people try and read the story of Adam and Eve literally. Like, the idea that God placed a literal tree in a literal forest and said "don't eat that one", like a massive temptation beacon. If God is holy, and scripture calls us to be holy as He is holy, and scripture tells you NOT to create "stumbling blocks" of temptation for other people (Paul talks about this constantly and Jesus gives the idea of throwing temptation in front of a child, that its better for them to be tossed in the sea with a millstone around their neck ), then how are you supposed to read the story?
I have a huge study on this, but I'll sum up... The garden wasn't really a garden, it's the Temple of God. The tree, wasn't really a tree, it's a scroll of knowledge and Adam and Eves job was to tend God's Temple. If you look at it from that point of view, it would make sense why God would put something in His own Temple, but tell them NOT to read from it (ingest like food) or they will die. It also makes sense why God then warded it off and protected it, lest they become immortal (without repentance, without the aid of God, etc) because of the information. Also why the Torah is called the Tree of Life.
But simply put, what sin did they commit? Disobedience. God told them not to do it, they did. That's all there is to it.
I think problems arise when people try and read the story of Adam and Eve literally. Like, the idea that God placed a literal tree in a literal forest and said "don't eat that one", like a massive temptation beacon. If God is holy, and scripture calls us to be holy as He is holy, and scripture tells you NOT to create "stumbling blocks" of temptation for other people (Paul talks about this constantly and Jesus gives the idea of throwing temptation in front of a child, that its better for them to be tossed in the sea with a millstone around their neck ), then how are you supposed to read the story?
I have a huge study on this, but I'll sum up... The garden wasn't really a garden, it's the Temple of God. The tree, wasn't really a tree, it's a scroll of knowledge and Adam and Eves job was to tend God's Temple. If you look at it from that point of view, it would make sense why God would put something in His own Temple, but tell them NOT to read from it (ingest like food) or they will die. It also makes sense why God then warded it off and protected it, lest they become immortal (without repentance, without the aid of God, etc) because of the information. Also why the Torah is called the Tree of Life.
But simply put, what sin did they commit? Disobedience. God told them not to do it, they did. That's all there is to it.
That passage does not say that “God would not put a stumbling block before his children causing them to fall” which is what I questioned.
That satan was the serpent doesn’t logically lead to the presence of symbolism. The text does not say that satan was a literal snake. The Hebrew is much richer in meaning.
I'm talking about interpretation and yes, I'm well aware of the hebrew. But there are indications OF symbolism, since Satan IS the snake. We know that from Revelation which literally calls Satan the serpent. Since it's not literal as he is a Cherub, that means it is symbolic. That is just an example. The other is that the Torah is called the Tree of Life. They didn't write this stuff down on paper, so it isn't linked to literal trees either as they wrote the Torah on hide which can be preserved for a very very long time. A tradition that is still carried out today.