I find it odd that you think you can merit salvation through sinless, perfect obedience. (Romans 3:23; 6:23; 1 John 1:8-10)
Does that mean you don't think obeying God is necessary for sa;vation ?
The obedience that comes from faith (Romans 1:5) is the mark of genuine faith so no obedience at all would demonstrate no faith.
I agree.
So I hope that we also agree that sinners don't have faith ?
Jesus Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption alone (Romans 3:24-26) and not based on the merits of our obedience/works. (Romans 4:2-6) Genuine faith produces obedience/works so obedience/works is necessary in the sense that it is the fruit of salvation and no fruit/works at all would demonstrate there is no root/faith. (James 2:14)
Jesus did everything necessary to make me a new creature.
And my behavior glorifies Him and our Father.
The moral aspect of the law refers to divinely ordained standards that are universal and timeless, intended to guide human conduct in a way that aligns with God’s holiness and justice. Unlike ceremonial or civil laws, which were specific to Israel’s historical and cultural context, the moral law is rooted in God’s unchanging nature and applies to all people
So, the ten commandments of the OT...or the two commandments of Jesus Christ ?
Amen!
For the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. (Romans 13:8)
Thank you for making my point.
So quit making it look like I am trying to earn anything.
If it's achievable then why does the Bible say in Ecclesiastes 7:20 that there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins?
Because at the time it was written, it was true.
If it's achievable then why does the Bible say ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God? (Romans 3:23)
That is just a plain truth...if you exclude Enoch, and Elijah, and Elishah, and Samuel, and John the Baptist, and Jesus, and perhaps others.
Also, if it's achievable, why does the Bible say, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us??? (1 John 1:8-10)
The words written about those in darkness (sin) don't apply to those walking in the light (God).
A man cannot walk in the light and darkness at the same time, as I already explained to you in post #333. Again, our walk is about location (in the light) and direction (walking in that direction) and not perfection.
You are correct, man cannot walk in both sin and God.
I have chosen to walk in God, and there is no sin in here.
No, you believe we are either sinners or saints based on sinless perfection or a lack of sinless perfection.
Absolutely.
As you stated above, we can't walk inth elight and in the darkness at the same time.
The obedient walk in the light-God, and the disobedient walk in the darkness-sin.
All believers will be saved. (John 3:18; Acts 13:38-39) The bad news: ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God and the wages of sin is death. The good news: BUT the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 3:23; 6:23) Not through sinless perfection. (1 John 1:8-10)
The devils believe, so will they be saved ?
Is Jesus blood only good enough to wash away past sins only?
No, as it also allows our sanctification, atonement, justification, consecrations, cleansing, and being set apart.
Plus it indirectly facilitates the destruction of the old man and rebirth of the new creature !
Continuing to walk in the light is proof of genuine conversion.
Amen.
Once again, the moral aspect of the law refers to divinely ordained standards that are universal and timeless, intended to guide human conduct in a way that aligns with God’s holiness and justice. Unlike ceremonial or civil laws, which were specific to Israel’s historical and cultural context, the moral law is rooted in God’s unchanging nature and applies to all people.
Can we substitue the Lord Jesus' two commandments for all of that ?
Love God, love neighbor ?
I already answered this question twice.
Jesus' power is not the problem. Our flesh is the problem. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Why would you be concerned about the skin and bones, when the converted walk in the Spirit ?
The 10 commandments are included in the law of Moses, so is that a yes to my question? You believe that you will be saved based on the merits of perfectly obeying the ten commandments? Are you really that delusional?
I feel that obedience to the ten commandments is the natural result of loving God with all my heart, mind, strangth, and soul.
Believers will be judged according to their works in order to determine rewards and loss of rewards. 1 Corinthians 3:11 - For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
Believers, yes.
The sinful will hear this on the day of judgement..."Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them,
I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matt 7:21-13)
Unbelievers will be judged, condemned and cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15) Instead of rewards there will only be condemnation for unbelievers and for some greater condemnation. Matthew 23:14 - Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore, you will receive greater condemnation.
Yep.
The disobedient will suffer eternally, for their hate of God.
(1 John 1:8-10)
