Struggling with homosexuality

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Jaxx

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April, you should read Matthew 17:21, if its even IN your bible (certain brands of bibles actually took that entire verse out, wonder why...) anywho, it talks about how a boy had an evil spirit in him, and how that evil spirit made him jump into fire and water, and Jesus' disciples tried to cast that demon out of the boy, but they couldnt, then the boy's father told Jesus about it, then Jesus came and cured the boy. Then the disciples were like 'why werent we able to cast the demon out?' and Jesus said that certain things can only be removed through PRAYER and FASTING, like demon possession, so I am convinced that homosexuality is something that can be removed through much prayer and fasting, and also great spiritual support from a good church, christian music, and studying God's Word daily, ANYthing having to do with Jesus, do it, daily, and those desires will go away, I guarantee it!
 
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Jaxx

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its not just fasting, its PRAYER and fasting, and also when fasting, its best to put away everything that doesnt have to do with Jesus. Fasting means engaging ONLY in the things of the Lord (i mean, if you have to work or go to school then thats fine of course), but when you have spare time, give that spare time to the Lord, and if you do, God will honor that, He'll see how your heart wants to change, and He'll change you daily, until one day, you'll wake up and say 'Wow, those feelings are gone!' But it doesnt happen overnight. i dont know how long it will take, but dont give up if the results dont seem like much at first, keep going! and dont give up! Imma pray for you man! You'll be just fine! James 4:8 says 'If you come close to God, then God will come close to you' and the closer you are with God, the less you'll feel those old desires! So get as CLOSE to God is you possibly can! That's your way out man! I love you!
 

Kathleen

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I do not want to be gay,

I do not want to go to hell, so I have two options, conversion therapy or chemical castration.
I am going for the idea of chemical castration, it is far more easy in destroying my lust than conversion therapy.
I can eliminate my sexual sin with this, my sex drive can be virtually wiped out, I want you to pray that this treatment works.
This idea is like a God send.
firstly i will say - u r in my thoughts and prayers.

i would suggest connversion therapy than chemical castration...

i definitally wouldnt go with castration, u may regret it.... especially if u break away from the sexual sins that u r currently commiting i.e fornication and homesexuality.

so i would definitally give converison therapy a go. defo not castration..

im a good lister so if u ever want to talk ..feell free to drop me a line
May the Holy Spirit Guide You On This Matter
God Bless
Kath x
 
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Cako53

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I will be praying for you. homosexuality is a sin, BUT all sins can be overcome with God's help. Remember to God all sins are equal, so don't think you are any worse than someone who lies, cause you aren't we are all sinners. Matthew 11:28 (NIV) "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."
 
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Motown

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I'm going to try the praying and fasting. I've done the praying, just haven't fasted much.
I am in the same situation. I"m struggling with the feelings, and I'm getting to the point that
i'm ready to put an end to it. I would rather die that continue sinning. I'm tired of the struggle, i'm tired of sinning, i'm tired of being gay and the condemnation for something i have no control of. The condemnation from outside, but most importantly from within. I loath myself and every breath I take. I only ask that you please pray.
 
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aprilrenee1

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motown before you try praying and fasting, you should read Jaxx prayer request
 
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songster

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I would like to add a slightly different perspective on the subject. Masturbation itself, not being mentioned in the bible, leaves some to search for scriptures in order to ‘make it a sin’. I know that, for myself, when this was a serious problem, it was accompanied by many other connecting sins, which were more dangerous than the masturbation itself.

One of the main areas of focus , when seeking to be delivered from masturbation, regardless of the means you use to gain control, prayer, fasting, or just quitting, should be, what your personal experiences have caused you to become attracted to.

‘All’ addictions are the result of experiences we’ve had in the past. Simply because we may not be able to identify the causative factors, doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Parental relationships, abuse, (both emotional and physical), excessive guilt and shame surrounding masturbation and sex itself, are some of these factors.

Masturbation is the physical manipulation of the body to produce momentary pleasure, however once we add pictures, videos, DVD’s, mentally visualizing people, or viewing actual individuals, it becomes a type of idolatry, simply because we have placed ‘the objects of our desire’, or their image, in a position of being greatly desired or worshipped. Whether our unwitting partners in these activities are ever in danger spiritually, is controversial, but one thing is certain, these images are imprinted on our sub-conscious, which is why some continue to see images of nakedness and sexual scenarios long after they’ve completed the act of viewing the images. The primary danger, is not in the masturbatory addiction/habit, it is in the viewing material.

A great first step in becoming free from these desires, is identifying the triggers. Anxiety, stress, isolation, and boredom are some of these triggers. Fasting removes strength from the physical body and also has the potential to break spiritual strongholds, and so for those who practice this, it can be very effective.

There is so much I want to say concerning this subject, but I’ll limit it to one more point. The difference between, the person who is struggling with a particular sin, i.e. drugs, homosexuality, pedophilia, pornography, or a combination of several things, is that the enemy tempts, with the desire to bring you fully under his control. His efforts are not simply to cause you embarrassment, or to fail, but to cause you to ‘give up’, to surrender. He is actively trying to prove to God, that you will simply surrender your life to him, in place of accepting this struggle. Please understand that some have done exactly that, but you are not among those who sell out! You have accepted the struggle and are continually finding ways to resist.

Stop beating yourselves up! God loves you and you are Sons! God has not 'given you over to unnatural affections, or a reprobate mind! If this were so, you would not desire to be free. Press on and continue. God is faithful. You are a work in progress. Keep moving forward, seek out and receive support, and you will see that, with each month, and each passing year, a new strength over these issues will be developed, and you will do what previously seemed impossible.
 
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Ash_JFF

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I know how you feel. At times I struggle with the same temptations of homosexuality. However, I know i am saved. Yes it is really hard and I hate myself at times too but we must continue to follow Jesus and let him deal with our sins.

Jaxx's replies are great. Stay in scripture and in Jesus. Sin will not send you into hell if you believe Jesus died and resurrected to take the punishment for your sins and if you confess them and ask forgiveness - Jesus will save you.
 
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I actually tried chemical castration and it doesnt take away sexual feelings for men. it doesnt take away your desire for sex completely either. it only lessons your sexual energy and desire a lot but not completely. if your desires are compulsive they won't go away that easily. its not a quick fix. you have these feelings and god is probably not going to just take them away. they are a part of the way your brain works. I'm sorry to say this but you are probably going to have to just deal with these feelings for the rest of your life. God understands what you are going through and the bible says that he wont give us any challenge that is to great for us to overcome. just try your best to abstain from men. thats all god expects from you. if you fall pick yourself up again. I know exactly where you are in your struggle with this and I've been there and done that so if you ever want to chat with me I'm on here a lot. just send me an instant message.
 
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vansfordave

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Godsholywrath,

I wish I knew how to tackle the gay issue more fully, this one is a big one issue for me, ever since my best friend revealed that he was gay about 10 years ago. Before that, I wasn't homophobic, nor did I view homosexuality as worse than any other sinful lifestyle, but the topic really didn't interest me. Now it's a personal topic, and I will pray for you (I have already prayed once). Just remember that YOU are not the SINS that you commit. YOU are a man, not a pattern of actions, and God loves you, has forgiven you and wants to deepen his personal relationship with you. He wants to be a father and a friend. I have struggled intensely with heterosexual (straight for the young reader) desire, and therefore I do know where you are coming from. God can heal you, and if you let him he will. Love and blessing.
 
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I'm not sure if what I'm reading is sincere or not. I guess because it's so extreme. Trust me, whatever you do don't go thinking that big phrama is gonna save you or fix you. Here's what's gonna happen. You'll take the drugs, you'll either damage your internal organs and die a painful death of organ failure, and or the drugs will screw you up even more. Possibly even irreparable damage that you'll never be able to recover from. Our bodies are constantly in a state of flux. The person you are now is not the same person you were last year, or the year before. And in a year you'll be again a fully new human. All you got to do is simply begin to work your will power to excercise some constraint from any urges. it's no different than perhaps someone learning to stop smoking or drinking. You do it one day a time. Start thinking different. Start seeing yourself as a normal decent human man that's God's creation and God's child. You got to give all relationships, sex and stuff like that a break. Give it a rest if you're serious about God. Take a break from all that. Be single for a while as you humble yourself, and exercise some self control. You'll be like a monk for a while. Just making your spiritual walk your primary focus. Then start to pray that God will make you think and feel like a normal human man should feel and behave. You don't have to do any extreme crazy prayers that won't make sense to you right now. Just pray that God will make you feel like a normal man should feel. That's probably all you have to pray. God will do the rest. Again I'm not sure I'm still convinced that what you're asking for is sincere help but there's help for anyone who asks. Even if you're not sure, if you're confused, you can say to God, "God I'm confused I just want to have a good enjoyable normal and decent life. A life that I can honestly look myself in the mirror at night and feel good about myself. And I don't want to be confused about any area of my life". Just keep praying and God will help you if you're sincere. Anything can be healed. You just got to decide that you're ready and open to accepting change. Dear lord please help this person to just start to talk to you daily and read your word and get to know you. Amen.
 
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frankleespeaking

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God will love you UNCONDITIONALLY no matter what.
Homosexuality is not a sin.
If you engage in homosexual behavior such as sex then it is a sin.
You cannot change who you are.
I believe that our Lord will accept you for who you are.
But whatever you think is right...I say go for it.
I will keep you in my prayers.
God Bless You friend..


this is not a true biblical teaching, Its completely reversable, people can be made a new creation in Christ, old things can pass away, and all things can be made new. I was bound in all sorts of sins before Jesus changed my life, I was about as queer as you can get, and today I don't even think about same sex activity's just as I don't even think about drinking or doing drugs either. who the Son sets free is free INDEED!......for the record most people who never get free, don't believe they can be free, also homosexual thoughts is where the sin begins, control what you allow yourself to think about, and you will be amazed at how quickly the demonic lust subside....ITS TRUE! RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU!.......on the other hand if you allow your mind to play out perverted memories and such you will constantly feed the spirit your trying to get free from.......not only was I set free from homosexuality, but my orientation was reversed and I found myself being attracted to women, One in particular caught my eye, and we've been happily married for 8+ years.
 

jandian

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Godsholywrath,

I cannot imagine what it is like to struggle with being gay, but I do know what it is like to struggle with other sins. I hear you talk alot about not wanting to go to hell... Know that God loves you and that loving Him is His first commandment.

" Walk in the spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh" Beautiful scripture found Galatians 5:16
It means your focus rather be on walking with God, learning to live with Him as you would a friend and it will weaken your interest in fleshly things.

Do not accept that you will be gay for life. God is able.

Do not accept that all you have to do is not have gay sex and you'll make it to heaven...Christ said in Matt 5 that lust begins in the heart and mind and even that is sin.

But for everything that you struggle you have He has provided an ans. In II Cor 10:5-6 He said to cast down every thought and bring it into subjection to Christ. Don't beat yourself up when you struggle or feel defeated, if Jesus expected you not to battle with it He would not have provided weapons of warfare.

I pray that your friendship with God will intensify and you will completely overcome homosexuality in Jesus' name. It is your legacy as a child of God to win

Go in peace
 
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Tonydisciple

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Excuse me, homosexuality is not a sin! of course its a sin, how dare you say it is not, and your giving false assurance to the person struggling.
You need to repent and start reading your bible.