Search results for query: harpazo

  1. T

    Will There Be A Rapture?

    I was pointing out that this word ^ is not in the Matthew 24 text... nor in the Mark 13 text like you suggested it is: The Greek word for "caught-up" [Strong's G726 - harpagēsometha - "snatch"] is NOT in this text... *you* are INJECTING it INTO this text.
  2. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Wish I had more time to flesh out (with you) how I'm viewing this instead (I'm on a time crunch presently, so this will have to wait). But just to say, I disagree that the rapture has no time stamp of any kind (at all) and that's the reason for Jesus' words "knoweth.....Father only," as you...
  3. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    :) Gotta say it... I must disagree (on this point). This is why (way back, in our long-ago convos) I said that this is why I do not believe this verse is "an idiom" [or whatever] speaking of "the Feast of Trumpets" / Rosh Hashana (as indicating "rapture timing"). IOW, I do not believe Jesus...
  4. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...every last detail of the matter, when the filmmaker's intention is to just depict the overall point); --the word "G726 - harpagēsometha / harpazo" (i.e. "SNATCH") doesn't necessarily carry the MEANING of "floating upward" or "ascending [visibly in the sight of others]" LIKE Jesus' SECOND...
  5. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...times in his 2 epistles to the Thessalonians using various terms and phrases (not merely the ONE well-known, oft-quoted verse which uses the "harpazo / rapture / snatch" word used in 1Th4:17). Check that out. :) (I've also posted about that in past posts.) Again, welcome and hope to see...
  6. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    There is a difference in meaning between the two distinct words G386 (from G450) and that of G726 (they do NOT have the "same meaning"): --G386 - anastasis "ἀνάστασις anástasis, an-as'-tas-is; from G450; a standing up again, i.e. (literally) a resurrection from death (individual, genitive case...
  7. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...AFTER that starts, in the chronology, so still not making sense). Not to mention, the "two witnesses" are said to "ascend" up to heaven, it never states they are "raptured [harpazo'd - snatched]" ;) (Neither was Jesus, when He ascended, or journeyed up to heaven in the sight of His disciples...
  8. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    What in my post gave you the impression that I disagree with any of what you've put in this post? I AGREE that's what "harpazo [G726]" means. My post was about the word "rise [G450 - 'to stand again']" instead. (I was not referring to the word "caught up / harpazo [G726 - which indeed means...
  9. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...that Jesus died and rose again G450 even so ..." The word means "to stand again". That's it. It does not carry the same meaning as "harpazo [G726 - 'caught up/away' or 'snatched'... or what we call 'raptured']". So the "we which are alive" ones (of the One Body) do not "meet" the...
  10. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...them..." (that's ONE "snatch-action"... not two!) I'm pointing out how you are butchering the grammar so as to come up with a "two-distinct-harpazo-actions"... but the text itself is saying otherwise. One group is NOT "caught up" just moments BEFORE the other group in this text... ...
  11. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...this is what the text is conveying, so you're not alone. :) But the text isn't saying that. It is saying there will be ONE snatch-action (harpazo - G726) for both components of the One Body... that is, the dead in Christ will RISE first (i.e. be bodily resurrected ['to stand again' (on the...
  12. T

    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    ...Coming TO THE EARTH Rev19 [/Matt13]--They will be IN THEIR MORTAL BODIES, and will NEVER have lifted off the earth, as we/the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY *will* have [harpazo'd / caught up [G726]--pertaining SOLELY TO "the Church which is His body," NOT to all other saints of all OTHER time periods)
  13. T

    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    ...are who will have DIED prior to "our Rapture" (but they will "rise first" [i.e. be "[bodily] resurrected"] before we'll be "caught up [G726 - harpazo] TOGETHER" [at the same time] ;) ) [by contrast, the "WHEAT" and the "TARES" will BOTH be "STILL-LIVING PERSONS" at the time-slot being...
  14. T

    Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    I don't want to call it that, because Scripture itself does not. I did notice that YOU want to call it that. The "TARES" will not be "harpazo'd [G726]" (which word/action pertains SOLELY TO "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"/us) ____________ Right. It refers to "STILL-LIVING PERSONS" at...
  15. T

    Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

    The word "harpagēsometha [G726]" ['snatched / catching-away / caught-up'] is not used with regard to the "2W' in Rev11, and I believe purposely so... Rather, the word "anebēsan [G305]" is used (Rev11:12), and I believe is purposely this way to clearly DISTINGUISH it from a "snatch /...
  16. T

    There will be no Rapture!!!

    So, what do you make of what 1Th 3:13 is saying (where it also talks about "the coming / parousia of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints"), where the phrase "before [G1715] the God and Father of us" is also mentioned? (This comports also with the scene in Rev4, regarding the "24 elders"...
  17. T

    CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

    ...events (Lk21:23,20; Matt22:7, etc), but not that He "RETURNED" to do so (biblically speaking). [inserting this] And I see NO mention of "harpazo / SNATCH [IN THE AIR]" of anyone in the events surrounding 70ad. I do see this, however: "and they shall be LED AWAY CAPTIVE into all the...
  18. T

    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    [I changed up the order of these quotes so I could address this part first ^ ] In the text, the word "first" does NOT hook up with the clause about "the man of sin be revealed". It is instead connected to the clause preceding that one. Yes, it makes a difference. Recall, I've pointed out...
  19. T

    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ...[singular]"... See Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), one of which is the doctrine of "rapture / snatch / caught up / harpagēsometha / harpazo [G726]"--which was not promised to OT saints nor to Trib saints, thus does not pertain to them at all ("Rapture [IN THE AIR]" pertains SOLELY TO...
  20. T

    Conclusion From Beware the Pseudo-Rapture Doctrine 4

    ..."FUTURE"; Comp. v.9 with Rom11:26-27,15... along with Dan9:24's "TIME-prophecy" re: Daniel's people and Daniel's holy city); It is not a "harpazo / snatch / rapture / caught-away," but rather, a "shall be gathered ONE BY ONE" (to JERUSALEM)... i.e. the OPPOSITE OUTCOME from that of the "70ad"...