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To be clear, I am saying that when expositors make apostasia to mean depart up into the air, then to paraphrase the scripture they would be saying: "The appearing of the Lord and our being gathered to Him (departure) will not take place until departure takes place." That is what the scripture...

The gathering of the church does not take place on the day that the Lord returns to the earth to end the age. The coming of the Lord and our being gathered to Him takes place first, with the Day of the Lord, the time of God's wrath to follow. The barrier that mid or post tribulationists cannot...

Hi Timothy! There are two sets of kings mentioned in Revelation 17: Seven Heads = Symbolically represents seven hills upon which the woman sits (Rome) and also a succession of seven kings: These seven kings are not from different kingdoms, but are successors from the same kingdom, Rome. The...

Hello TheDivineWaterMark, I think that is some confusion here. So allow me to present what I am saying: There are two closely linked, yet different events mentioned in 2 Thess.2:1-3 1). The coming of the Lord and our being gathered to Him (rapture) 2). The Day of the Lord - the time of God's...

Allow me to through this out there: If the word departure was referring to the gathering of the church, then the scripture would be basically saying the following: "Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be easily...

First I would submit that, the four living beings, the Ker-oob, are not the same angels as those who are standing at the four corners of the earth to harm the earth, sea and trees. My point was/is, that everything that happens regarding the earth, sea and trees will be the result of those four...

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Those listed above are common animals. I would put Dinosaurs in a different category then bears, lions and leopards, etc.. And remember, I am just throwing information out there to be considered. Nothing is set in stone. Were those two footprints made...

Good day, Pilgrimshope! I agree with you, in-part, meaning that the results of those four angels who are told not to harm the earth, nor sea, nor any tree, is not just the 6th trumpet where those angels kill a third of mankind. But the results are all of the previous trumpets and bowl...

I totally agree with you here, Garenias! I truly believe that we have been observing the on-going apostasy that Paul spoke of in 2 Thess.2. There was a time when, even though there were unbelievers, there still seemed to be a reverence for God. However, today the world is eagerly engaging in...

Hello CV5, I guess that we would be in disagreement here. Though departing from the law of Moses and turning to Christ and the new covenant of salvation by grace through faith is correct, that is not what Acts 21:21 is focused on. We must focus in on the meaning of the word apostasia itself...

Good day! I believe that we will experience the chaos right up to the time that the church is gathered, but that we will be gathered to the Lord prior to that first seal being opened, which initiates God's wrath. Regarding the comparison of Noah, think of it this way: current believers in...

Well, with what we know about dinosaurs, especially the meat eaters, mankind could not exist along side them. Not only that, they would not be included with reference to the common animals. And if they were animals, why are they not mentioned when God had them male and female for the ark? I...

The earth being covered with water wasn't my point. The fact that it was already there and is outside of the six days of creation is my point. As I said, you won't find scripture saying "on the first day, God created the earth and it was covered with water." It was already there. And how long it...

Correct! The creation that is mentioned, is referring to everything that God created on the already exiting earth and the Cosmo's. So, who knows how long the earth was just sitting there covered in water before the creation. My point is that, the word of God does not say, "On the first day, God...

Hello TimothyGodIsLove, Actually, the earth itself was not made during the six days of creation. The scripture below demonstrates that the earth was already existing prior to God creating everything on it and around it: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was...

Agreed! I was just defining what John was talking about by defining the two types of sinning.

Hello Blik! Please compare the following scriptures: ========================================================= "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all...

What you have said is truly amazing, stating the exact opposite of what scripture says regarding salvation. "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast." The New Living Translation covers it...

What would lead you to apply the mathematical equation above? You are referring to the woman of Rev.12, which are not the children of the Spirit, but represents the nation Israel (See Genesis 37:9-10 for the meaning of the sun, moon and twelve stars). The woman/Israel fleeing out into the...

Thanks! I answered it because it was up on the Forum as recent.