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Well, we do differ here then. I believe that the entire seven years is the time of God's wrath, with the last 3 1/2 years being the great tribulation. However, the first seal with the rider on the white horse, which represents the emergence of the antichrist, will be opened at the on-set of the...

Totally agree! And "Therefore, since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from wrath through Him! " - Rom.5:9 "They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the...

Rather, the the wise and mature (like Nehemiah) know, that because the Lord took upon himself God's wrath which every believer deserves, satisfying it completely, that God's wrath no longer rests upon the believer and will therefore not be on the earth during the time of God's wrath to...

I have studied end-time events for many years, utilizing all related scriptures. In order to come to a right conclusion, it is paramount in understanding that there is a difference between the Lord's appearing in the air to gather the church vs. The Lord's return to the earth to end the age...

Won't happen, because that time period is the time of God's wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which the church is not appointed to suffer. That said, the church will be removed prior to the first seal being opened, which initiates God's wrath. Jesus already took upon himself the...

I'm in complete agreement with you in that, the great tribulation is that last 3 1/2 years of the seven year period, at the end of which is when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom. The entire seven years is the time of God's wrath/tribulation. I...

Matthew 13:21 is speaking about the common trials and tribulation which come as a result of our faith. Matthew 24:21 is speaking about the great tribulation, which is the time of God's wrath when the seals, trumpets and bowl judgements will be taking place leading up to the Lord's return to the...

Hello Evmur, Yes, we have already established this and I am in agreement with you in that, believers from the on-set of the church till this present day are experiencing tribulations. God's wrath/tribulation comes after the church is gathered which is what believers are not appointed to suffer...

Hi Timothy, The beast represents not only a government, but an individual as well. That is why I pointed out that when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age, the beast and the false prophet captured and thrown alive into the lake of fire. Paul referred to the beast/antichrist as the man...

Greetings and Welcome, Lucy! Hope to see you out on the Forum.

Good day, TimothyGodIsLove, Both the first and second beasts are literal men. In 2 Thessalonians 2 Paul refers to the first beast (antichrist) as "the man of lawlessness." In Revelation 16:13 and 19:20, the second beast is referred to as the false prophet. When the Lord returns to the earth...

Good day, CS1, Forgive me if I am misunderstanding your post above. There are two groups listed in Revelation 7. The first is the 144,000 from the twelve tribes of literal Israel with Dan being replaced by Ephraim. The second group states that they will be a multitude which no one can count...

Hello Aaron56, The above is synonymous to 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, when the Lord appears in the atmosphere resurrecting the dead and where the living are changed immortal and glorified and caught up with them to meet the Lord in the air. At that point the entire church will be gathered in the...

Hello Rayzor, The "one taken" group is being compared to those who were taken in the flood, making the comparison wicked to wicked. Many interpret the "one taken" group as being the gathering of the church, which is false. It is in reference to when the Lord returns to the earth to end the age...

Greetings and Welcome to Christian Chat, Ladrosify, From the time I came to Christ, people would ask what denomination I belonged to, Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, etc. My attitude is/was "Is Christ divided?" There should be no divisions at all. For we are not saved by what denomination we...

Never-the-less, it doesn't change the fact that Satan and his angels still have access to heaven. Their being cast out of heaven is part of the process of restoring the authority of the earth back to God and His Christ, which Adam and Eve forfeited when they disobeyed. Because of this, the...

Quite true brother. And we knew that this was inevitable. It is just getting worse the closer we get to the gathering of the church and the time of God's wrath. "For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine and accurate instruction [that challenges them with God’s truth]...

You're not bursting my bubble. If I didn't already know about that, do you think that I would be commenting on these issues? I'm not speaking from the cuff of my sleeve on these matters, as many assume I am. When Jesus said that He beheld Satan fall from heaven like lightening, He was referring...

Satan's persecution of the great tribulation saints takes place within the period of God's wrath, the Day of the Lord. Everything that takes place during that time period is God's wrath. The events of Satan, the beast and false prophet are all a part of God's wrath and testing of the tribulation...

Rev.12:9 is not referring to Satan in the garden, but is a future event, where at the sounding of the 7th trumpet Satan his angels will be cast out of heaven to the earth, which is also the 3rd woe. "Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea...