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  1. Ahwatukee

    Paul's Conversion

    It was before Isaac was even born that Abraham was credited with righteousness for his faith. Below are the scriptures: But Abram replied, “O Lord GOD, what can You give me, since I remain childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?” Abram continued, “Behold, You have given me...
  2. Ahwatukee

    Paul's Conversion

    Hello Wansvic, Well, I would remind you of the thief on the cross who could not come down to be baptized or do anything at all, except have faith, which alone brought him into the kingdom of God. I would also mention Cornelius' household, who while Peter was still speaking the gospel them, the...
  3. Ahwatukee

    Could the tribulation start this year?

    Good to meet you, Lamad, I agree with you in that, the world will know that something has happened because of the gathering of the church. But the way in which they will know that that the 70th week begins, will be when that ruler, the antichrist establishes his seven year covenant with Israel...
  4. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    And he probably didn't even realize it ;)
  5. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    "The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him" are the same event and not two events, i.e. we are gathered to the Lord at His coming. This is in keeping with 1 Thess.4:16-17 which says that the Lord himself will descend from heaven, i.e. His coming. And then the dead will...
  6. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    Post #20 must be by someone who is on my ignore list, because it goes from post 19 to 21. Who is it from?
  7. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    I agree, in that. I believe that the apostasy has been taking place before our very eyes. People have completely turned away from God and are completely embracing the sinful nature. They have forgotten that without Christ they are remain condemned. Once the church is gathered, then the Day of...
  8. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    Well, you really don't have to ask that question, because Jesus gives it to us right in the context of why they will be falling away from the faith: "Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. At that time many will fall...
  9. Ahwatukee

    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    It is because you are taking the translated word "Destruction" and interpreting it to mean cessation of existence (annihilation), instead of applying the meaning of the original Greek. This is a complete lack of exegesis on your part. Right in the definition of those Greek words, it plainly...
  10. Ahwatukee

    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    "And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” However you interpret the word 'eternal' in the verse above, must retain the same meaning for both the wicked and the righteous. Since we know that eternal life will be never ending existence in the kingdom...
  11. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    Well, the falling away, will be a kind of revolt/rebellion, according to the Lord's description: "Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. At that time many (believers) will fall away and will betray and hate one...
  12. Ahwatukee

    2 Thessalonians 2:3—Rebellion or Apostasy?

    Hi ResidenAlien, I agree with you regarding the word 'Apostasy' which is from the Greek 'Apostasia,' which is defined as follows: ==================================== HELPS Word-studies 646 apostasía (from 868 /aphístēmi, "leave, depart," which is derived from 575 /apó, "away from" and 2476...
  13. Ahwatukee

    America in Prophecy

    Good day, Rondonmon, As I have made very clear in my previous posts, the woman of Rev.12 is symbolic, i.e. she is not a literal woman. The answer to who she is, is found in Genesis 37:9-10. For the same symbols of the sun, moon and stars are used in Joseph's dream, which represent Jacob as the...
  14. Ahwatukee

    Could the tribulation start this year?

    You are obviously set on your interpretations, which according to scripture, I find to be false. I have already gone over this information that you replied to, but you distort and circumvent it. Therefore, we agree to disagree.
  15. Ahwatukee

    America in Prophecy

    Well, the difference is that we have all of the word of God at our finger tips. Therefore I am not going to abandon what I have been studying and what the Spirit of God has been revealing. In fact, I don't claim or teach anything that I am not completely sure of. And because of that, I have...
  16. Ahwatukee

    America in Prophecy

    No, I didn't miss that. The Lamb looking as it was slain and the Lion of the tribe of Judah, are descriptive of the Lord Jesus. That however, does not constitute of how you interpreted the two groups in chapter 7 as being the same, when they are listed as two separate groups and identified as...
  17. Ahwatukee

    America in Prophecy

    Good day, Aaron56, This is the error that people make by referencing the fact that Dan does not appear in the list, which is replaced by Manasseh. Ephraim was Joseph's son and was not a member of the original 12 tribes. So, the only difference is that Dan is missing and is replaced by Manasseh...
  18. Ahwatukee

    Judgement Day

    I would only add, that those who appear at the GWTJ, will have already known where they are going, since prior to being resurrected, their spirits will have been Hades in torment in flame, just as the rich man has been experiencing. So, they will know of their eternal fate as soon as they enter...
  19. Ahwatukee

    Could the tribulation start this year?

    What you are doing is believing and repeating a well known false teaching, which I have contended against for many years. They attempt to do this with the scripture which says, "There be some here who will not taste of death until they see the Son of Man come in His glory," stating this as proof...