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  1. Ahwatukee

    America in Prophecy

    “But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with [h]carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be...
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    Hello

    Greetings and Welcome, Stormela! Look forward to seeing you out on the Forum.
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    Could the tribulation start this year?

    Hello randk, Just fyi, "This generation" is directly linked with everything that Jesus' mentioned in Matt.24, i.e. those signs that must take place, including the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments revealed in Revelation. To be clear, Jesus was not referring to His generation when He said...
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    Newbie Here

    Greetings! And Welcome back to the Lord and congrats on your anniversary. Hope to see you out on the Forum.
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    What is the different between Purgatory and Hell?

    Regarding Luke 16:19 "One day the beggar died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. And the rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham from afar, with Lazarus by his side." If the Catholics would look at the verses 22-23, they...
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    What is the different between Purgatory and Hell?

    Hello Minister01, According to Roman Catholic teaching, when a person comes to Christ original sin and all past sins and sins up to the time they are Baptized are forgiven. After that, God's grace is in the hands of the priests, who proclaims sacraments to be performed in order to cleanse the...
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    Hi

    Greetings and Welcome, alwayserve17! Look forward to seeing you out on the Forum. Blessing in Christ!
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    That is false! Eternal torment is exactly what the scripture is talking about. It mentions that the smoke of their torment rises up [forever and ever], which cannot be referring to the great tribulation which is only 3 1/2 years in length. It is speaking about their state of being in the lake of...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    Who do you think the verse is referring to regarding those who are being tormented? It certainly wouldn't be the righteous. It is the wicked who will be tormented forever. You can't be tormented unless you are existing. Please use your reasoning regarding these things. As I said to you in an...
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    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    ====================== Awatukee said: "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    This above is the reason for your error! Life and death are both states of existence determined by an individuals state of being with God. The believer in Christ will have eternal life, which is eternal existence in the Joy of the Lord in the kingdom of God. The reference that the unbeliever...
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    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    Hi ResidentAlien, Interpreting Matt.24:29-31 as representing the gathering of the church is an on-going error, as this is referring to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age. While it is true that clouds and a trumpet are mentioned just as in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, they are two different...
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    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    It's not as simple as that, ZNP. By believing and teaching that the Lord is going to gather His church when He returns to the earth to end the age, would be putting the church through God's wrath in it entirety. That person is teaching new believers that they are saved and have eternal life, yet...
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    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    According to your claim, there would be no difference for those who are watching and those who are not? You have both parties entering into the tribulation period, the time of God's wrath. Both would experience the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments regardless of whether they are the righteous...
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    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    Really? I've studied much of end-time events and I have never seen any scripture which speaks against the concept of the church being gathered prior to God's wrath. In fact, there shouldn't even be a question regarding the Lord's coming to gather His church prior to His wrath, because it is...
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    Sabbath

    Remember when Daniel began to pray for understanding of the visions. The angel Gabriel was sent immediately to give to give Daniel understand. However, it took him 21 days to get to him because Gabriel said that was prevented from getting to Daniel because the "prince of Persia" withstood him...
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    Can one repent at the Judgement or after death?

    The literal says, "The ones coming out of the tribulation great." Jesus also called it a time of great tribulation that will be unequaled, inferring that it will be a time of unprecedented tribulation set a part from all others. Therefore "The" as the definite article is setting it a part from...
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    The rapture and "the tribulation"

    Any time anyone says something is indisputable, it usually is and this is no different. Matt.24:29-31 is regarding the Lord's return to the earth to end the age and establish His millennial kingdom and has nothing to do with the gathering of the church. In fact, the church will be following the...
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    Sabbath

    I am also never looking for an argument, but to contend for the truth. The word 'beast' is used to represent kingdoms, as described in Daniel and in Revelation. However, the word is also used to describe an individual being. The first place in Revelation that this beast is mentioned is at the...