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  1. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Here is an account that you may have missed: A reporter accused Aimee McPherson of doing what she did through some hidden power source, and demanded to be shown to the basement to see it. When he got to the basement, what he saw was a group of grandmas passionately praying for the Holy Spirit...
  2. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Reminds me of what Jesus asked; "Why seek ye the living among the dead?"
  3. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    In actual fact, speaking in tongues is a sign to unbelievers that they will face the judgment of God if they don't turn to Christ. Paul quotes Isaiah who said that even though they are presented with the sign, they still won't hear God's voice warning them of the judgment to come. If people are...
  4. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Furthermore, the vast majority of churches still hold to the one-man-band type of service management, and that includes Pentecostal and Charismatic ones. It is interesting to note that the AOG churches are tending away from member participation in tongues and prophecy with the pastor becoming...
  5. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Of course another valid reason why Paul didn't write about tongues in his other epistles was that others churches didn't have the same problems with their use of tongues as did the Corinthians. Paul wrote his epistles to deal with specific issues in churches. If something wasn't an issue...
  6. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Someone disagreed with this post. My response is that there are many more church members sleeping and snoring through boring, lifeless and graceless sermons than there are lunatic fringe fanatics in the Pentecostal movement.
  7. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    The member who disagreed with this is merely showing that she can't find any Scriptures that support her position on the gifts of the Spirit. No surprises there!
  8. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    It was actually a joke! Some people need to grow a sense of humour.
  9. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    But then our churches are so involved in shallow, easy believerism, that true conviction of sin is largely absent in both preaching and responses to it. We don't see people getting on their faces crying out to God for mercy, because the preaching is so devoid of conviction that people don't...
  10. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Derek Prince said if rolling makes us holy, then let's roll! And, of course, there is nothing wrong with expressing joy with laughter. Of course, in every revival there are unusual manifestations, especially among the unconverted who come under intense conviction of sin. The best study of...
  11. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Funny...I have either been a member of a Pentecostal church or associated with Pentecostals as friends, and I have never witnessed any of these behaviours in Pentecostal churches. Making horse noises? Maybe some have had colds and were just a little hoarse! By the way, I read Michael L...
  12. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Actually, you and I are the only ones on this thread who have a good appreciation of sound doctrine...however, I'm not so sure about you! :geek:
  13. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Of course you have a good Scriptural foundation for proving your assertion that the millions of Pentecostals who are speaking in tongues are speaking mere gibberish. Ensure that the verses you quote are in context. Don't use 1 Corinthians 13:8-10, because every intelligent person knows that...
  14. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    It is interesting to note that I don't know of a single sick person who has not done everything he or she could to try and get well. I guess that "if it be thy will" is okay for someone praying for a sick person, but for the sick person it might very well be, "Tt better be thy will because I...
  15. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I have had quite a serious conversation with the Lord about the way I pray in tongues, and I asked Him on what basis can I have the assurance that what I do pray He understands and appreciates. He said to me, "I inspired a whole chapter in the New Testament...
  16. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    It is a tool of the Spirit for the Christian church, in the same way that a socket set is part of the took kit for a mechanic. In terms of a "sign", one could say that the socket set in the tool box could be a "sign" that the owner of the toolbox is a mechanic, and that a mechanic appearing on...
  17. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I believe that the evidence of the baptism with the Spirit is genuine conversion - a totally transformed heart that hates sin and loves righteousness. That's what John Wesley believed, and called it "entire sanctification". Joseph Alleine, a well-known 17th Century Puritan preacher, says that...
  18. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    Is that right? I have been praying with tongues since 1966, and my faith is securely founded on Puritan Reformed Sola Scriptura doctrine that accentuates Christ and Him crucified. I guess that is about a firm a foundation as one could have, in MY view!
  19. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    I believe that the tongues I speak are the ones spoken about in 1 Corinthians 14. Why? For the simple reason that I asked the Lord for the gift, received it, and pray in faith when I pray in tongues. How come I know that my prayer language is genuine? Because the Lord promised me in Luke's...
  20. PaulChristensen

    Pentecostalism's sketchy origins

    So, when Paul says, "Do not forbid speaking in tongues", your church decides to contradict him.