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  1. Clayman

    Explanation of the A- millennial view.

    I just made the term up, maybe I have a strange sense of humor, but what I'm getting at is, what if some things in premil are correct and some things in amil are correct then why can't we just combine the correct things and believe them. Of course those who hold strictly to either view, and...
  2. Clayman

    Explanation of the A- millennial view.

    Haha sounds like your a multimillennialist, which I actually think makes the most sense, pre mills can see the problem with the 1000yr period being now, and amils can see the problem of Satan not bound now.
  3. Clayman

    Explanation of the A- millennial view.

    Hi Dirtman, I actually watched and enjoyed the vid although I don't agree with the amil viewpoint. I saw his representation of the pre trib rapture slightly disingenuous lol, I'm sure he knows proponents don't view the rapture as the second coming, although mocking viewpoints can be legit if...
  4. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    Happy to be corrected, although I do put Satan in a unique category I havnt actually heard of the seven heavens?
  5. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    Thanks, Live4Him The only thing I cant agree with is the fact that the timing seems specifically pointed to the first coming of Christ. When I read verse 1-5 I see it like this. Revelation 12 is in regards to the woman who is Israel and how she relates to the last days. Rev 12:1 And there...
  6. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    I think a bit differently to most people, the intro and context in Job has how and why Job sacrificed to God which he regularly did, I think Lucifer had a role on earth as a priest in Ezekiel we are given an account of how he was adorned with precious stones, 3 rows out of four of the Aaronic...
  7. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    Interesting, yes it has crossed my mind as to why Satan and the angels are cast down to earth, I mean God is sovereign and in complete control of what happens in His creation so the question is why did He not just throw them into the lake of fire and be done with the rebellious host? I think...
  8. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    Hi ZNP, Im newish here didn't even realise there was a blog section, you have a lot of material there :-) Mind if I ask what CERN stands for? Ive only had time to briefly skim some of what you've written, I guess I see the breach in the last days to come from below not above would be my first...
  9. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    Thanks for the verses, for me it creates more questions than answers. I dont read Rev 12 in a strictly chronological pattern, Although I agree with the time frame you have given here, except I see it in regard to the woman not the dragon in the tribulation period. [6] And the woman fled into...
  10. Clayman

    The war in heaven

    Reading the bible we come across an event that occurs in heaven it is a war between angels, one third of the angels who follow or side with Satan, against the other two thirds of angels who are led by Michael. This event has resulted in numerous and various explanations to the extent that for...
  11. Clayman

    Dispensationalism...

    You see Dispensationalism as taking away from good exegesis of the bible, which I don't see why (yet, give me time I'll catch on) But the fact you see God dealing with mankind differently at different times shows that you see dispensations? I see the law as teaching us we can't be righteous, we...
  12. Clayman

    Dispensationalism...

    I'm not sure how many colours of dispensationalism there may be, but my understanding agrees with you that people are not saved by different means. But what dispensations does show is how God works differently at different times, for example Israel were expected to follow the law, yet today...
  13. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Those photos look like a solar eclipse, not a lunar eclipse?
  14. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    When I get home ill look for a photo, If I didn't take one, there will still be some around, the whole moon went red not just the outsides, this was from New Zealand, 4 months ago maybe, my understanding is its got to be a lunar eclipse in a certain phase so it is rather a rare sight.
  15. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Ive seen the moon in a total lunar eclipse and its blood red to the naked eye, and the darkness on earth is eerie. If the sun goes dark, by some unknown or supernatural means during the tribulation like the 3 hours of darkness at the death of Christ, there could be another source of Light and...
  16. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Im Gobsmacked, I didnt pick you as an amil, or one to use amil tactics, that's a lot of verses about Israel gathered into the Kingdom that are in the bible, but now obsolete... Even Paul would disagree he said 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for...
  17. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    I see two gatherings, one for the church and one for the remnant of Israel, the question to ask is to which are these referring? The one for the Church is the rapture and the one for Israel is just a gathering to Israel. We know there is a gathering of the remnant after the Lord comes, and they...
  18. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    This seems to be undoubtedly referring to the rapture, my friend :D
  19. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    I am repeating myself here, but my dad use to say to me sometimes for some you have to say something three times before people hear what your saying so ill say it again, I don't think the verses here in Matt 24:29-31 are talking about a pre-trib rapture, In fact they are not even talking about a...
  20. Clayman

    The Falling Away - pre-trib rapture or ???

    Disagree, the whole bible must be in harmony, don't be scared of people quoting verses to show you where they develop their opinions from. Also the Holy Spirit teaches us in harmony with the Word, it is living and powerful, and the Gospel writers along with the Lord Quoted 100s of scripture from...