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By the way, since Revelation shows us the entire week marked by 7's, and the last half of the week to the end of the week clearly marked as 3 1/2 years with 5 different countdowns, two given in days, two given in months and one given in years (times) one can easily extrapolate that if the last...

The very first revelation from God about the book of revelation came while I was reading Daniel 9:27. When my eyes and my mind got to the word "midst" God suddenly spoke: "You could find that exact midpoint clearly marked in the book of Revelation." I was instantly "in the Spirit" and could...

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My friend, I did not do so, John did. It was JOHN in Revelation that shows us the start of God's wrath as in the start of the DAY of His wrath, before he starts the 70th week. That causes the entire 70th week to be inside God's wrath. That means every trumpet judgment comes with His wrath. That...

Agree: the restraining power is the Holy Spirit, working in and through believers. Apostasy: sorry, but since the beginning of the church, the church has grown. It is STILL growing and will continue to grow. When one falls away, TWO replace the one. What you wrote makes sense (your argument is...

i spent most of one post explaining the differences. Perhaps you have not yet read it, or perhaps you read it with preconceived glasses. Can the sun and moon as INVISIBLE be the same sign as the sun appearing black and the moon appearing red (total eclipses)? No, they cannot be the same sign...

It would be very strange to set the theme of a passage and then never cover the theme. I think it imperative that Paul cover the theme since he said that was what he was going to discuss: "concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him..." Wouldn't it be strange...

Sorry to disappoint you, but I do find it silly to equate two things are are not in any way similar. Only a beginning bible student would equate the signs at the 6th seal with the signs after the trib of those days. Why? Simple: they are two different signs that will happen over 7 years apart...

Let's add verses 6-8 to get a complete picture: 1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to Him: We ask you, brothers, [ Here Paul sets his THEME for this passage (so they must be included in any exegesis) His coming and our gathering.] 2 not to be easily...

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I personally agree the 6th seal is the beginning of God's wrath and it happens after the great tribulation. You are right: I will disagree. You have not studied these cosmic signs to note that they are different and happen over 7 years apart and that they are for two different purposes. I have...

the LORD will pre-trib rapture His Elect"??? This is a false question: It assumes that Matthew 24 is Paul's rapture. So far, you have given us NO SCRIPTURE that proves Matthew 24's gathering is Paul's gathering. Try asking an intelligent, scriptural question. We all agree that Matthew 24 tells...

It is important, when discussing the TIMING of Paul's rapture, to know where Paul places his rapture and where "the trib" is on a timeline. Revelation gives us a perfect timeline. Most people who say they are "pretrib" cannot accurately show us where these two events are on Revelation's timeline.

You changed/twisted/adulterated 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 to say the 'falling away is 'pre-trib rapture' Did you not read what Peter said about Paul's writing? 2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they...

Anyone can play that game: THE POST-TRIB RAPTURE: Not one time, not one verse, never have you or anyone been able to find in scripture to prove what does not exist in scripture: Paul's rapture coming post-trib.

Why did you side step my question? Are you above answering questions? Do you agree that the Revelation 19 coming is the same coming Jesus tells us of "after the tribulation of those days?"

1 Thessalonians 1:10: I am glad you brought this up. First, not only is there coming the wrath of the Lamb, but God the Father has wrath also. I noticed that you MIS-quoted that verse. It only says "wrath to come." Why do you add to scripture? There are many verses telling us WHO God's wrath...

I learned in English Lit' class "there are two kinds of truth." You have made it abundantly clear what YOUR "truth" is. For example, you point to Jesus words of His coming after the tribulation of those days and declare this is proof of a posttrib rapture - as if you have really proved...

That's a false statement. You have see all the post-trib evidence but you go on and claim you haven't seen it. That's a dishonest tactic. No, I made a true statement. I have seen the gathering in Matthew 24 over and over, but so far no one has offered any proof at all that it is Paul's rapture...

the second coming is after the GT which you have already admitted No, sorry, I have never admitted such an error. The second coming will be His NEXT coming and that will be only to the air. It will be a coming FOR His saints. There is nothing in these verses about "every eye will see Him" and...