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I must have missed where Jesus said that. Please post that verse so we can examine it?

It is all there in the KJV. One need look no further. However, it would require reading skills and understanding what one is reading.

I was really hoping that I could learn why so many people here believe in a posttrib rapture. I was hoping for some good bible exegesis so I could find out why people believe it. Sadly, all I have seen is posttrib rhetoric with no exegesis. I guess there must be no verses that prove Paul's...

I am so glad you believe in Paul's rapture and that it will happen with Jesus' coming. Now all you need to add is that this coming will be before wrath and before the Day or the Lord: the order Paul establishes.

As long as your understand that Jesus' own resurrection was a part of this "first" resurrection, I won't disagree with you.

Thanks. Good explanation.

You words have no value. And your does? HA! Where is the pre-trib verse??? Rev. 7: 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and...

Jesus first - nearly 2000 years ago, the church next, the 144,000 after that, and finally the Old Testament saints - all will partake of that "first" resurrection in their order.

I was quoting, thank you. It is true, John wrote of the "first" or chief resurrection first before he wrote of the second death resurrection. With that said, it is a big time error to imagine because this one says "first" no one could have been resurrected before this time. Jesus was the first...

Thanks but no thanks: the KJV with strong's numbers is sufficient.

That is fine as long as you understand Jesus was the first one to partake of this "first" or most honorable resurrection!

I guess you FORGOT your English bible was translated from the Greek. Have you bothered to look up "first" to see how it could be translated? Barnes Notes: " It is called the "first" resurrection in contradistinction from the second and last - the general resurrection - when all the dead will...

Did you not know that the bible you read has been TRANSLATED from Greek? Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first G4413 resurrection. Lexicon :: Strong's G4413 - prōtos Outline of Biblical Usage [?] first in time or place in...

I suspect it is possible for a true child of God to be confused or deceived into thinking they will see the Beast first.

You all, have had 3 months now to find a single "pre-trib rapture' verse and have not brought forth one - not one And you have had all this time to find any clear verse teaching a posttrib rapture,and have not brought forth one - not one. As I have said over and over, there is not "one" (1)...

You are sure going to be SHOCKED when Jesus comes PRETRIB for His bride!

Sad but true: what you imagine is an idol turns out to be truth. God is pretrib.

Hmmm. The very first post of this thread: "No one taught a pre-trib rapture until John Darby, " This theory has been debunked over and over. It is nothing but myth. "Historically, nobody ever thought of this doctrine before Darby. " This theory has been debunked over and over. It is nothing...

I did not realize that had not studied the 144, 000. 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. I don't know how this could be any plainer: they are descendants of Jacob.

I notice, even though you disagree, you never answer questions.