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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Luke 22:31-32-31-32 The Message (MSG) “Simon, stay on your toes. Satan has tried his best to separate all of you from me, like chaff from wheat. Simon, I’ve prayed for you in particular that you not give in or give out. When you have come through the time of testing, turn to your companions and...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Satan Tests Job 1 There was a man named Job, living in the land of Uz,[a] who worshiped God and was faithful to him. He was a good man, careful not to do anything evil. 2 He had seven sons and three daughters, 3 and owned seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, one thousand head of...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Yes your quite right there, Jesus said to satan away from me, which is the same thing as get away from me. Also get away from me would imply i dont want to know you, So i ment to say Jessu said get away from me to satan i dont want to know you. and i ment to say satan never knew God, which...
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    Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

    Hi dear christian and brother and sisters around the world, I would like to dispute this matter because i feal this is the biggest missing link in our bible, to understanding scripture, and sorting out so much confussion, please also let me apolagize for any hurt this may cause you. At this...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    then there must be confusion with other scripture some where. the fire of hades says no body can go in there and no one one will leave there 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    not according to this part it isnt 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    Demons will have people thinking they are worshiping the correct God and then torment peoples minds with other stuff just for the fun of it. this is how they get a hold on people by making them fear. and in turn a demons objective is to get people to frighten other people. they do this by...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    According to this verse it is a final judgment 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    And youve just quoted your own law about the law lol, anyway ive allready made the decision i am not going to get into more long drawn out disputes about the law here anymore, hence the reason why i have stopped doing threads myslf about the law. I have been doing a study about tormenting...
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    I came across this scripture as to why christians will believe in eternal punishemnt. but does that make it right completely ? lets read it first. The Rich Man and Lazarus 19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid...
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    The saying God moves in mysterious ways is definately true here. there is some deeper meaning here to the stars. Jesus born a baby was quoted as having a star in the heavens. Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.” (Matthew...
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    “As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches. (Revelation 1:20). Here we see a quote diesctly from The lords mouth saying the stars are...
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    This is why there is indication that animals have a soul, that God did indeed breath life into the animals and all living bodies. perhaps this is the same for the stars. because they have a natural body. What i ment was the bible doesnt actually say God breathed life into the animals like he...
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    Bowing or worshipping an image

    Again this is picture Of Jesus and its the spirit of Jesus we worship, which cant be seen in this picture. But the name is the same. which means where not worshipping false Gods.
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    Bowing or worshipping an image

    Hi @Minister01 nope its not jus physicial seeing. Jesus said where there is a natural body there is a spiritual body. Do you see the spiritual body of everyone you look at.
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    Hi @Ogom, ive read this scripture Revelation 19:17 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; This scripture suggests an angel was...
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    Hi @Gideon300 i dont think its out of the realms of possibility. and quite possibly our sun is a verry special angel. theres a lot to take in here such as the age that a star can live for in the physical body. something is living in a star that much we can say. there is the outer body and the...
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    Hi @posthuman you know Jesus said. 1 Corinthians 15:40-48 AMPC There are heavenly bodies (sun, moon, and stars) but the beauty and glory of the heavenly bodies is of one kind, while the beauty and glory of earthly bodies is a different kind. The sun is glorious in one way, the moon is glorious...
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    Why are both Jesus and lucifer referred to as the morning star,

    If i Knew what to believe on this subject i would not have asked the question, as for being wierd as to whats written, about angels being stars. it causes me confusion.
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    Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

    of Hi @Sakla this is such a diffacult subject to understand, theres so many reasons why, but one i feal that goes unchecked, is do we really mean something to be forever when we punish the people we love, who upset us. Its so easy to say i dont love you anymore, or i hate you, or i will never...