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yea its about the source of the love.. God... rather than love being God..which would be idolatry. Real love is also grace and truth combined, so there is Gods commitment to the believer that is the grace part and discipline which is the truth part. So it is real love that is a combination of...

I know this reasoning, but am not comfortable with it. With manuscript evidence.. oldest doesn’t always mean best. For eg.. you get writing based on manuscript that is later than others... but the testimony of early churches is they used the passage in the earliest lectionaries and sermons...

Yeah, there are disinctions to make. For eg.. Mark 16:17-18 KJV And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; [18] They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay...

No.. there are no more apostles. Them and their associates have died.

The thing I see alot ..is some people who say they are messianic Jew.. but lower Jesus' status below the Father. They dont believe Jesus is God. So they still trust in their works. Obviously not all have this belief..but it is common and deceptive.

Compare what Jesus did with the disciples for healings and miracles. Also compare with others they had laid hands on who also had been given the authority to perform signs and wonders. Look at what the miracles and healings were. Is that what we see now? As Justin Peters said...

The book of John? 3:16 5:24 6:40 Romans 10:9-10? Believing on the Lord Jesus is not a work. It is.. led by the Holy Spirit.. changing your mind, heart, about Jesus, and entrusting your salvation with Him. If you believe in salvation before belief, it doesn't mesh with the book of John..plus...

yeah its a popular saying but little to do with scripture. So following Gods will is the 'do' Well is this a set of commands..or firstly: John 6:40 KJV - And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will...

People use phrases like 'the church of America' .. but its too nebulous. Its vague, a fog. What do they mean? All believers in America? Then how do they know what that large of a group are saying? If they mean the church as the institution of all churches in America.. then that entity is...

That was 20 years ago! So uhhh..... no. But good advice! 😉

This should address some objections to OSAS

He obviously had a human form as Jesus, and as you say with the human lineage through David. But there is never a point where He did not exist. He is the inheritor of promises and the unique Son of God.. but not created. Anyway...methinks we are saying the same thing in different...

Yeah.. Jesus was pre incarnate before being manifest in the flesh at the birth. All things were created through Him and in Him all things consist. He is not a created being. He is the Creator of beings.

yea its not the best interpretation.. just trying to get how He is never not God but still can say 'why hast thou forsaken me'. I like the better contextual point of Him speaking on fulfilling prophecy.

There are many who populate christian forums that believe water baptism saves. I think its getting more and more common.

Well, sometimes you get a rebellious whole nation or group, who get wiped out for their rebellion, so there is that. But God would warn them, through their leaders what would happen if they did not trust Him. So they would still get the message. I believe God gives everyone a chance. How that...

God doesn't HAVE to have another person show someone the gospel..He is more powerful than that

God shows Himself to everyone to give everyone a chance. Through His creation..His invisible attributes can be seen. He doesn't HAVE to have someone talk to them.

Agreed! It is He who keeps that state of grace for the one who believes in Him. The object of the belief sustains the salvation.

That salvation is through Jesus Christ By believing on Him