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  1. wattie

    Can the church survive without the Holy Spirit.

    The church Paul persecuted was the church AT Jerusalem.. for starters. He persecuted no other. 1 Timothy..taking care of the church of God..by context Paul was admonishing Timothy as a young pastor/bishop as overseer of a particular church or other churches he would lead. The general...
  2. wattie

    Can the church survive without the Holy Spirit.

    Well calling the church in Matt 16 universal is popular but not what it actually is. Matthew 18..it's local and visible ..why would Jesus introduce the church one way in matt 16 and then change later? Matt 16 is about the institution of God's churches plural..singular standing for plural...
  3. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    Different administration's of the Holy Spirit.. 1...Personal indwelling. John 3:16.. Roman's 10.. Ephesians 2 vs 8_9. 2...Corporate local church 'in the midst' role. Not necessarily in a building ..but among the believers as members of that church. Happens thru the book of Acts and early...
  4. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    Here is the security we have : (Rom 4:3) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. (Rom 4:4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (Rom 4:5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that...
  5. wattie

    Hebrews 6:4-8

    Here is most of the message of Hebrews 6: (Heb 6:11) And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: (Heb 6:12) That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
  6. wattie

    Hebrews 6:4-8

    Okay, you gotta go back to the end of Hebrews 5 to get the context. This is about believers... Hebrew believers going on to maturity. So the Hebrew believer is being admonished to go on to faithfulness if they fall away. The Hebrews were going back to old Judaistic ways. You can see in...
  7. wattie

    Correcting errors

    Okay, thanks for the reply. I'm some one that sees the gift of tongues as having fulfilled its purpose, with it being a known earthly language, not known by the speaker, that God gave some believers to communicate His gospel of reconciliation to people who spoke different language to the...
  8. wattie

    Correcting errors

    Happy New Year to you also. I am guessing the topic of the likes was on on the topic of speaking in tongues. Do you see speaking in tongues as known earthy languages the speaker has not learned, or unintelligible utterances that God translates to the listeners ear, in their language?
  9. wattie

    Did giants really exist?

    Well, aside from the sensational.. you have descendants of Adam and Eve who were close to being perfect. The affects of sin through the generations wasn't as drastic for those who were in close lineage to Adam and Eve. Consider the things Adam was capable of doing. And later even Noah.. who...
  10. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    Gnostics take it to a different level and don't accept Jesus as God and Saviour. But in the Bible.. at salvation a lost person is indwelt by the Holy Spirit. So their spirit doesn't sin. But they are still human and imperfect. That's the dual nature
  11. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    A saved person's spirit is sealed by the Holy Spirit, so their spirit is clean and cannot sin. They can still go after the flesh, and this is the dual nature. In the NT these are the admonishments to sew to the Spirit and not the flesh. If a believer couldn't commit sin , there would be no...
  12. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    You just ignored the discipline and correction of the Holy Spirit on those who practice those things. Just because loss of salvation isn't a consequence..doesn't mean there is NO consequence.
  13. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    I want address the accusation that it's teaching a 'license to sin '. This accusation is ignoring the work of the Holy Spirit in prompting His children to go on to faithfulness. He corrects and rebukes.. disciplines. It is also not recognising the fact that everyone sins, alot, whether...
  14. wattie

    Is it the ‘end of the world?’ or ‘the end of the age?’

    There is the theory that it means the end of the local New Testament church age. When the Holy Spirit leaves the earth as the Comforter before further events
  15. wattie

    Can the church survive without the Holy Spirit.

    Individual indwelling Vs the presence of the Holy Spirit in a local church body may be what is being thought of
  16. wattie

    Can the church survive without the Holy Spirit.

    Okay.. you gotta look at what the word church means in each instance it is mentioned. For eg .. 'ye are the body of Christ ' ...in 1 Corinthians 12... Is about the local body of believers at Corinth. Not all redeemed. So.. being 'without the Holy Spirit '... What entity is without Him? A...
  17. wattie

    Why do so many people say they are saved by Jesus when, by their own admission,

    Titus 3:4-7 KJV But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, [5] Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; [6] Which he shed on us abundantly through...
  18. wattie

    The Security Of The Believer

    On 'he who endures to the end will be saved' This is a verse not about eternal salvation, but deliverance from trials and tribulation during end times. To see what save means... You go by the context around the word and don't just label it as eternal salvation every time. So, a saved...
  19. wattie

    The Commandments of God (according to scripture)

    Service to God in the New Testament is through His churches. No other institution in the bible has it. There were missionaries of course.. but they were sent out by churches.. to plant churches. Jesus built His church and that is the pillar and ground of the truth. But anyway.. I pray God does...
  20. wattie

    Our Inheritance in Christ.

    Self control and discipline is a big one.. but this need not be as the world has it in self empowerment.. the ego... But sacrificing self for Jesus' best. It's opposite to the way the western world is going . Also the Eastern ..seeing that their religions are mostly about the self also. So it...