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Romans 9:18So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen.

Why did Jesus tell us no one can come to him unless God calls,leads,them? Why did Paul tell us our natural mind, meaning the unredeemed, cannot understand the things of God? And the only thing that remedies that is intervention by God, the Holy Spirit?

Yes, it does. Proverbs 16:4 The LORD has made everything for his own purposes, even the wicked for a day of disaster.

War makes rich men richer. World war 3 in 10,9,8,7,6..... The eagle is already fighting the bear by proxy. If JB suffers injury but survives....

I think the comment you are referring to was denying works salvation. Feeling a kinship with the gospel message isn't work, or doing something to obtain salvation. I really fail to see why people have an issue with this. Paul told us our faith and salvation, by grace of God, is therefore...

Yes. It's doing what Jesus told us is the only way we can come to him. No one comes to Jesus unless the father calls them. And no one can understand God's calling, the things of God, unless or until God's Holy Spirit intervenes and changed their natural mind that cannot otherwise understand the...

CALVINIST! Oops, that was scripture. My bad. :censored:

Ephesians 2.

No, I actually meant what I said.

No.

Fascinating.Because the KJV translators followed the MT. :)

God, via Paul.

You have to read all of Ephesians 1and in context of Jesus' Gospel. For instance, this part of chapter 1 that surrounds the single verse you posted. ''11 In him we were also chosen,[e] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose...

That's not in accord with Paul's teaching.He can't contradict himself.

Try? The slur slingers are apparently those who think holding to the Gospel is exclusively Calvinistic. That doesn't offend me. Limited knowledge is only offensive when someone refuses to learn they're wrong. Most I've encountered who accuse Calvinist don't actually know what Calvinists believe.

True. The Holy Spirit is what changes our natural mind to understand things of the spirit.

:) That's denoting the difference between those in God's grace, those who confess Christ, and those who deny him are those not in grace. So yes, I accept that is accurate to what the Gospel says. Eternally saved is exactly that. Salvation is of God. Not us.