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  1. TMS

    the Sabbath

    It is sad, we are talking about the sabbath from the bible and giving bible verses to explain the truth and you start attacking EGW and the SDA church.. The Church and EGW do not need to be part of this talk. I you can attack them if you want but it is only another sign of were the truth is...
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    the Sabbath

    So i'm not seeing clearly ... Okay? Isa_8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Was it the majority that was right or wrong in the days of Noah? Was it the majority that was right in the days of Jesus? What does...
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    the Sabbath

    Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Exo 20:11...
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    the Sabbath

    So were the Ten commandments Gods conditions or were they the Covernant?
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    the Sabbath

    In the days of Jesus with all the prophetic scripture, most scholars denighed the messiah. They missed the point because they didn't want that type of messiah. they were very selective in their way of seeing things, even blinded.
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    the Sabbath

    Yes it isn't about being perfect,, it is about surrender and submission to the one you love. If you Love Jesus the obedience is a delight and not a burden. Obedience to the law is (by faith through grace) letting Jesus do His will in us which requires us allowing Him because we love Him...
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    the Sabbath

    God is judge not me or anyone else. But i accuse you of making void the law by faith.. Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. If you are saying we can continue to sin or continue to made any law void because of the righteousness of Jesus...
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    the Sabbath

    i never debate that, i admit that the old covenant was made with Israel.. But people are confused about the 10 commandments, If the 10 commandments are not the covenant made with Israel then they were not replaced or removed. the old covernant was removed and replaced by the new covernant...
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    the Sabbath

    The debate about the covenant is a long one... and i don't have the time but it is the point were most are mislead to believe that the 10 commandments are abolished. God made many covenants.. and the Bible refers to "THE COVENANT", "A COVENANT", "and "MY COVENANT" I looked to see the meaning...
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    the Sabbath

    They (The 10 commandments) were never dedicated with blood. The old covenant given in Exodus is clearly distinguished from the Adamic, the Abrahamic, or any other covenant brought to view in the Bible. We go back therefore to the history of Israel to the very first transaction we find taking...
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    the Sabbath

    They were in existence, and were just as much binding on men before as after the exodus. The book of Genesis, though so brief in its record of over 2300 years, nevertheless abounds with indications that the principles of the ten commandments were well understood and acted upon, even from the...
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    the Sabbath

    I think we we Agree with Justification,,,we might be a bit different with sanctification. Can we get back to the subject? The Sabbath. If you can see that he ten commandments were not the old covenant, because (1.) They were in existence, and were just as much binding on men before as after...
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    the Sabbath

    thats great but to say the we don't need to obey God's command, is to say it is okay to to sin. If i told everyone we can't obey the the law so continue to comit Adultery or continue to lie or take God's name in vain, that sounds like condoning sin. Because of grace and our unable flesh we...
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    the Sabbath

    When it comes to law and sin.. It is about doing what is right or not doing what you know is wrong. The LAW is given to help us understand right and wrong. A standard of righteousness. Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I...
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    the Sabbath

    Exactly. I don't think they understand how faith and works go hand in hand. The way James states faith without works is dead. Believing in grace or faith in God's grace results in works. True faith in God's grace will result in a new heart and repentance and works and fruits of the Spirit...
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    the Sabbath

    Christians are asked to Love God above all. If you need to choose between God and man we must choose God first. Mar 12:28-31 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of...
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    the Sabbath

    The law of Christ The Law of Love The moral law And the 10 commandments all point to the same loving God. They all glorify God's character, they are all from God. All based on the love of God. When I follow the law of love I am following the 10 commandments and when I follow the example of...
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    the Sabbath

    I agree. I believe the distinction between Jew and Gentile is no longer a point of separation because we are all one in Christ. Cerimonial and ritual laws that were shadows are not needed now that we have Christ The Sabbath was not a cerimonial law It was not a shadow law. It was part...
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    the Sabbath

    Inside the ark, under the mercy seat. In the heart.
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    the Sabbath

    I agree that when we realize how helpless we are the more realize that we need Jesus. Paul talks about two lives we can live... The flesh and the spirit. Walking in the Spirit or walking after the flesh. Paul does not teach that we have no choice. We can choose which path we are going to...