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    the Sabbath

    I agree.. by the Holy Spirit we are able to walk as Jesus walked. Think of Martin Luther. He was a catholic monk and he started to read the Bible. By God's grace his eyes were opened and he started to see the error and made a stand for God's truth. I'm sure the Spirit lead him and guided him...
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    Paul wrote Col 2. If, IF, that is referring to the 10 commandments, Paul is saying they are nailed to the cross. They are against us, contrary to us, and took it out of the way. Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of...
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    Justification is the platform for sanctification I agree that if we continue to choose sin as our master we haven't given God our hearts. What I was trying to say is that as slaves to sin we need Jesus more then ever and we have no power to save ourselves. As slaves we need to believe and...
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    I see your point. By justification we are made clean and holy so The sanctification that is progressive is what I think of when I compare to the two..
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    The reason these points were made is because people have stated that by faith they don't need to keep the law. I'm trying to point out that true faith will obey the law. Obeying the law does not make you a legalist. Obeying it to gain salvation by your own righteousness is legalism. But...
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    So is sanctification progressive or a one time event? It is progressive because Jesus is still working in my heart.
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    the Sabbath

    "Believers are no longer slaves to sin" you say. I disagree. we all struggle with sin each day. With Jesus we can overcome, Jesus can renew us and transform us. But being a believer does not mean we are no longer slaves. Hopefully by God's grace we are set free. Jesus came to save sinners. I...
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    What is the difference between sanctification and Justification? Is there growth. Is the character able to become more like Christ?
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    the Sabbath

    Regardless, the point is that these laws were mentioned and Jesus said to keep them. The 10 commandments are a set of laws and people keep removing the ones that don't suit their lifestyle.
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    the Sabbath

    Act 5:32 KJV And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. The Holy Spirit is given to those that obey Him
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    the Sabbath

    Do you think Noah was dishonouring his parents, killing, stealing, lying, coveting, comiting adultery, taking God's Name in vain, making graven images, having god's before the Lord Almighty, or forgetting the Sabbath? Most will agree that 9 of these commandments were kept by Noah even without...
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    the Sabbath

    You quoted these verses and tried to justify why we should not practice righteousness by obedience to the law. Faith without works is dead.. We can't do anything to please God without faith. We can by faith obey the law. If you have a bad habit of taking God's name in vain, and by faith...
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    the Sabbath

    Quoted from the 10 commandments. God gave a law called the 10 commandments. They are a set of 10 laws written on stone by God. You can cut out part or say only part of it applies, but the law was set as the 10 commandments. 10 not 9, or 8 or 5. Mat 19:17-19 ......but if thou wilt enter into...
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    the Sabbath

    There are many examples of laws that were given to non Israelites. Noah wasn't a Jew but was He able to steal and murder and take God's name in vain? Cain murdered able and that was a sin. If you understand who we are today, it wouldn't be about Gentiles or Jews but about being a child of...
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    the Sabbath

    I don't keep it because I am under it. I don't keep it to earn salvation, I keep it because I love Jesus.... Because you are freed from the law by grace does that mean you can murder and take God's name in vain? Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 1Jn 3:3-4 3 And every man that...
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    The old covenant was in place when Isaish was talking. At that time the old covenant was in place... The old covenant was faulty did God give 10 commandments that were faulty. The better covenant is not faulty. Back at you what faulty aspects were in the old covenant. What is more excellent...
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    No one is disagreeing with righteousness by faith. 100% righteousness is from Jesus. We can not earn it. But.... Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Rom 6:15-16 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under...
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    the Sabbath

    I disagree but, You can believe what you want. The real question is why don't you keep the sabbath holy today. Why don't you set it aside as a sanctified day? Do you observe it today? If you build your belief on misinformed your will believe a lie. The 10 commandments are not the old...
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    the Sabbath

    Because it swings both ways, both sides can believe what they want.... But there is other verses which can help to understand it. The Bible clearly states that the sabbath was made for mankind. It is also clear that it was made at creation. And regardless the real question is if we should...
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    the Sabbath

    If we were talking about any other laws people would have no issue. Written laws are not in Genesis for adultery or stealing or coveting or taking God's name in vain but they were all wrong. The laws were in place but the 10 commandments were not given yet.